So having a better jab doesn't = you win the fight. Hence Bruno lost to Tyson, Lewis, Spoon etc. because they were better than him in other ways.
Did I insult you? No. I stated my opinion. You could have done the same without calling me a "dumbass." The Ruddock that Lewis faced would have beaten Wlad. He was aggressive enough and carried enough power that it could end with 1 Punch. Wlad has power and can make it a shoot out but Ruddock's chin is likely to hold up better than Wlad's. The Tua that Lewis faced would have also beaten Wlad. Lewis has handled pressure better than Wlad leading me to believe that Tua's power, chin and pressure would enable him to keep Wlad out of his comfort zone. Mercer was 41 years old when he faced Wladimir. He was simply a name fighter who became a trail horse. He was finished by that time and to suggest that their fight in 2002 would resemble what a 1996 Mercer that Lewis faced suggests that you haven't seen much of Mercer. Holyfield despite being 37 years old gave a spirited effort against a 6'5 Lewis but looked like an old man in there. Holyfield beat Riddick Bowe in their 2nd fight Bowe was also 6'5. Holyfield at the age of 46 arguably beat a 7'2 Valuev more convincingly than David Haye. If Holyfield were to lose it won't be because he's too small, it'll because Wlad was simply the better man. In this case Holyfield based on his performance in the 2nd Lewis fight would beat Wlad Klitschko. I'm guessing what you wanted to hear was that Wlad would beat each and every single one of Lewis's opponents. Corrie Sanders is a Great fighter. Ross Purrity is massively underrated. Brewster has cannons in his left hook. Sam Peter is the biggest puncher the division has seen outside the Klitschko's and Vitaly and maybe Lewis are the only one's who can test Wlad. Seriously, its a forum. People will have a different opinions its normal but don't sit there and try to attack anyone who doesn't aggrandize the Klitschko's.
atsch It's like talking to a wall. Let me ask you this... What was the best punch Tucker, Lewis, and Douglas landed on Tyson? Answer... RIGHT UPPERCUTS. And they threw them as early as the first round. Why do you insist on giving Wlad attributes that he doesn't have? For instance, first of all the Tucker fight was a completely one sided white wash in favor of Tyson; however, Tucker was willing to throw dynamite as early as the first round and in the second landed his biggest punch of the night, a huge RIGHT HAND UPPERCUT that didn't even phase Tyson. The rest of the fight was Tyson covering distance so fast that he took Tucker's 1-2 almost completely out of the equation, smothering him and putting in all the work while Tucker was helpless. And this is a guy who was willing to throw blows and was not scared of getting hit in return. When have you seen Wlad throw the type of combinations and uppercuts like that, especially as early as the first round? You bring up Buster Douglas. Douglas did have success on the outside, but a great part of that is because his inside game, especially his uppercuts, detered Tyson from doing any work inside because he had something to be weary of when he got there. Additionaly, Douglas got low, sometimes even lower than Tyson. For starters, Wlad is incapble at bending at the waste. I don't think there is any video evidence available of him doing this. He also has no inside game to speak of, just holding, which IS DEFINITELY not enough to deter Tyson from doing work. Klitschko also doesn't like to be in a fight and has not proved yet to be a courageous fighter after the humiliating and emasculating beating he took from Sanders, when he crawled around the second "knockdown" without getting punched. Lewis used a very similiar blueprint to Douglas. Whenever Tyson came inside, he would meet him there with hard uppercuts, and also dipped his body low to protect himself from from being countered and just looking like a clown as Wlad often does when he throws uppercuts. Without that inside deterent it would have been a long night because Tyson was closing distance quickly. Lewis has also been in several wars and survived. Whenever Wlad has been in a war, he has been emasculated and knocked out. Well, unless you count slow ass Sam Peter that still managed to knock him down 3 times. So, in conclusion, why are you making things up that Wlad can do when it's obvious that these fighters had weapons in their arsenal that Wlad does not possess. It's great that Wlad has a good long left hook, but don't you think it would be unwise to use it agianst a ducking Tyson who could counter you with his left OR right and often got his knockouts by doing just this. So you take the left hook out of the equation, and Wlad has no uppercuts and no inside game, and that leaves Wlad with a 1-2 that can be used from the outside. So what you're saying is, in order to beat Tyson all you need is an outside 1-2? Doesn't this sound ****in ridiculous to you? I mean you got a guy with no chin and half a heart going up against a relentless killing machine with only two punches. Good luck with this one.
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I agree with all of this except that young pre-Manny Wlad wouldn't beat the very over rated Razor Ruddock. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
You said Klitschko would lose to guys like Ruddock and lesser fighters because you're rating Wlad on his worst performances & the others on their very best. Plain & simple that's what a dumbass does. I never claimed that Lewis or Tyson would be knocked out easily by Wlad, just that they would be competitive fights. I also never said Sanders, Purrity or Brewster were ATG fighters but Sanders & Brewster both had Championship belts & Brewster had several good defenses................Rudduck, well not so much.
Once again, spot on. :good Let me stress that prime Tyson would of course not be so easy for Wlad or Lewis for that matter. I still think they'd win but they'd struggle and they may even have to get off the canvas to win.
I agree. This might be the only matchup in history where a DQ of Golota is the bookie's favorite..................
Prime Tyson would be all wrong for any version of WALDO. The guy also claimed that faded Tyson wouldn't win a round off WALDO, that's nonsense too, he took the first round against a very good version of Lewis so I suspect he'd take a few rounds off WALDO because WALDO wouldn't fight back off the back foot as effectively as Lewis did because as we've all seen time and time again, WALDO folds under pressure. Also Tucker didn't give Tyson a tough fight, he wobbled him in the first round and after that did pretty much nothing. I haven't re-watched the fight but I remember it being a virtual shutout for Tyson at the time.
Guess what? Purity and Sanders are lesser fighters! The fighters I said that could beat Wlad carry the attributes require to beating Wladimir Klitschko. Remember after the Tyson fights, Ruddock was avoided by both Holyfield and Bowe (who are great fighters) and it was Lewis who chose to step up and face him. Ruddock was a dangerous fighter at the time Lewis faced him and to suggest that he'd be a walk in the park based on what I've seen from Wlad would be over stepping. By the way Ruddock was a better fighter than Sanders, Peter and Purrity. After all, Vitaly chose to defend his WBO title in 2000 against Razor Ruddock. Ruddock was ill and pulled out of the fight and Chris Byrd replaced him. So somebody disagrees with you and you insult them? I never claimed you did. I was being sarcastic with Sanders, Purrity and Brewster. Yes Brewster did have some decent defenses but frankly he was around during an era where the division was significantly weaker. Ruddock was around during a time where Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis were all in or close to their primes. Big difference.