Never won a title: most unsuccessful title bouts

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  1. chatty

    chatty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which boxer who never won a world title had the most unsuccessful attempts at a title.

    I dont know the answer to this, just thought it would be interesting to see which boxer fell just short the most times.

    ill start with an example:

    Jose Rojas had five unsuccessful attempts

    V Antoni Cermeno L UD
    V Yober Ortega L KO4
    V Chris John D TD4
    V Chris John L UD 12
    V Youriorkis Gamboa (interim) L TKO10

    obviously theres more credit to the older generation who only had one title to fight for and no interims etc at the time. May have to do in generation wise due to modern boxers having 4 titles to box for
     
    chatty, Jan 26, 2011
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  2. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Other classic examples of 5 unsuccessful title attempts are:

    Mitsunori Seki (1 at flyweight and 4 at featherweight)
    Yaqui Lopez (4 at light heavyweight and 1 at cruiserweight)
     
    Bukkake, Jan 26, 2011
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  3. D.T

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    LaPorte?
     
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  4. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    Jerry Quarry lost 4 attempts at the title to Jimmy Ellis , Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, and ALI
     
    kolcade4, Jan 26, 2011
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  5. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he did win a title
     
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  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, and if we are talking World champs with most defeats in title fights, then Tony Canzoneri has to be up there.
     
    TBooze, Jan 26, 2011
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  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think we're talking about failed attempts at WORLD titles, and not regional belts.. In both of Quarry's bouts against Ali as well as his fight with Norton, there was no world title on the line.. His match with Ellis and first fight with Frazier were his only attempts at a world championship.
     
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  8. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    Sorry Magoo, but I was reading the title of the thread, and it said nothing about World Titles, So in that respect Quarry fought and lost 2 World title bouts . And totaled 4 title attempts and lost all 4. The two non World Titles were the NABF (North American Boxing Federation) and the two World Titles (New york State Athletic Commision World Heavyweight tiltle to Frazier) and I do beleive the won he lost to Ellis was a vacant title, either WBA or WBC, I can't remember ,one of the two though.
     
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  9. Briscoe

    Briscoe Active Member Full Member

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    If you count interim title bouts Rocky Juarez has six lost/draw title bouts. If not five. Either way, a lotta chances.

    2005-08-20 (interim) Humberto Soto
    2006-05-20 Marco Antonio Barrera
    2006-09-16 Marco Antonio Barrera
    2007-11-03 Juan Manuel Marquez
    2009-02-28 (draw) Chris John
    2009-09-19 Chris John

    That's 0-5-1 in title bouts. Good fighter though.
     
    Briscoe, Jan 26, 2011
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  10. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yaqui Lopez had shots at Conteh, Galindez 2X, and Saad Muhammad at 175, then one at De Leon at 190 near career's end. No way is five the record though. I'd imagine we're looking at the era of no decision bouts for the answer to this one.
     
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  11. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats the fella i was thinking about.how many goes did armando muniz have ??
     
    turpinr, Jan 26, 2011
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  12. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only four, Napoles 2X and Palomino 2X.
     
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  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    tough geezer though wasn't he ??
     
    turpinr, Jan 26, 2011
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  14. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lopez gave Saad Muhammad two excellent fights.
     
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  15. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :goodand conteh.rough and tough
     
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