The Klischko's & This Era Of Boxing!

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  1. BoxingFan2010

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    I would not say this is the greatest era of boxing. I would not say it is **** either as many do. I think the Klitschko's would be a good fight for anybody in boxing's past. Alot of fighters in the past have had fights against lower level fighters and I mean some of the greats of boxing. Pick a name and you will find some bums. I don't think they are the greatest......but they are very ....very....very far from the worst. I will say and give them credit as they always come to a fight in shape and I don't think ANYONE can say they are not dedicated to boxing.

    I think Vitali is the far tougher of the two. 6 time world kickboxing champ, 3 time heavyweight boxing champ, military champ & more. Never knocked down, let alone a count against him, and always ahead on the cards in every fight.You have to respect the guy and he has class and brains. His injury's came from kickboxing, think he would have been a terror if he only boxed and left the kickboxing out. Without earlier injury's in kickboxing......he could have been even better at boxing. Vitali is not scared of anyone!

    Man needs respect for that. Ps- think Vitali gives anyone in the past a tough night. I don't mean he would win every fight...but he would win.

    Wald is a good fighter that doesn't have the chin of Vitali. He has learned to compensate for that with his fighting technique.

    In short we have two very good fighters that are good for boxing and are good for the sport with the way they conduct themselves both in and out of the ring. How can people hate on that? Does that make them the best ever....no! But dammit they are very good and its about time they get some credit!

    Like I said...Pick a name...any fighters name and we can come up with fights that were against fighters that should have not been there. Klitschko's not the best...But pretty dame good. Give me your fighters name from the past and lets talk about tomato cans.....? Waiting.

    Peace
     
  2. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad is much better than Vitali.

    Wlad´s chin is not bad but Vitali´s is overrated.

    Wlad works on his boxing skills, that´s very important to be a real good heavyweight. With Emanuel Steward in his corner Wlad improves as a fighter. If Wlad could work with Manny from begin of his career Wlad´s chin never would be a factor.
     
  3. Farmboxer

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    Vitali is the best heavyweight living today, Vlad is a very close second. However, bigots want you to believe that they are the worst boxers in boxing history!
     
  4. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitalis chin is overrated??

    How so?
     
  5. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ... but when this is the best thing anyone can say about them, it's hard to take their "greatness" too seriously.
     
  6. Neverchair

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    I think most people are aware even the Ali's of this world fought the odd bum.

    The difference is, those ATG fighters also fought (and beat) other ATG fighters. The Klitschkos just haven't done that.

    Vitali came close, had the chance, but couldn't pull it off.

    Im not saying they're **** but some Klit fans on this forum act as if they are the second coming and their opponents have been of elite class. Im sorry, but that's just not the case.
     
  7. Thread Stealer

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    This current HW era stinks, but the Klitschkos would be contenders or hold titles in pretty much all eras.

    Vitali may be tougher and fare better in mythical matchups, but Wladimir's resume shits all over Vitali's.
     
  8. zoo

    zoo Active Member Full Member

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    This era does suck but they are nonetheless still dominating it, the same way Joe Louis dominated the 30's and 40's. All he had was bums, ex champions, and a decent crop of Light Heavyweights. Even with the easy pickings he still had plenty of tough fights. Imagine if Wlad or Vitali got dropped by the likes of Tony Galento or struggle for a decision Arturo Godoy.
     
  9. Squire

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    I think the 00s suffers because it came staight after a great decade for heavyweights, and also the top fighters are not the typical boxer personalities you would expect them to be. Only Golota really fits the image that guys like Liston, Bowe, Tyson and even Holmes (flying kick from the roof of a car :lol:) have created over the years. Fighters like the Klitschkos, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Povetkin, Byrd, Valuev, Ruiz and Chambers have just quietly gotten on with their careers without even talking much ****. In fact most of them haven't really talked much at all

    The Klitschkos haven't had the chance to fight other ATGs. Vitali fought Lewis and it was a great fight and a war from start to finish, but apart from that- what opportunities have they had? I think we would have seen Vitali- fight shot Tyson if Williams hadn't pulled off an upset, but there just haven't been any other ATG fighters for them to face. Its not their fault. History will judge them on consistency and dominance, and they are doing a great job as far as that goes
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    The era sucks but it's not the Klitschko's fault. Neither brother is very charismatic and their dividing of the titles is not good for the division as we will never have a true undisputed, unified champion while both remain active, but they are both fine champions.

    The era sucks because they have no real contenders to their dominance. Prospects and contenders are all way over protected and never face off against each other and prefer to earn their shot by beating journeymen and faded contenders from the previous era.

    In the 90's you had contenders and prospects like Tua, Byrd, Ibeabuchi, Golota and many more facing off against one another. Now you have guys like Arreola, Williams, Chisora, Sosnowski who get their title shots by simply racking up a winning streak against bums because they or their management are too scared to dare stick them in with anther prospect or contender.

    The division would be way more highly regarded if contenders made a name for themselves prior to getting a title shot.
     
  11. popejking

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    Klitschkos are quite good or even very good fighters H2H, especially Vitali. However they lack resume. And mostly you judge fighters based on resume rather than skills. This is because having a good resume confirmes your skills - you cant beat good fighters in they prime and being a decent fighter.
     
  12. BoxingFan2010

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    That's what I would like to know
     
  13. BoxingFan2010

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    Agree with your post
     
  14. BoxingFan2010

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    :good Agree.
     
  15. eagleskins

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    Someone please let me know which ATG fighter Tyson fought and beat? That guy fought in the softest era ever, and was destroyed by the only two real fighters he ever fought, not to mention numerous other tomato cans.