I just thought he should have been given a count. 8 seconds is a lot of time to see how a guy is doing. Ropes held him up, so he had every right to give the count. Not a standing 8, but a legit KD do to the ropes. If Abell was still ****ed after the 8.. call it. But damn, give a guy a chance to give up. The best fights ever are when a guy gets up and comes back.
A DEFINITIVE finish. At a minimum, this should include at least one or more knockdowns; many, many unanswered punches (ala Mercer-Morrison); or preferably a clean knockout (KTFO). Refs stop fights WAY too quick nowadays, and fans actually applaud this ****. To me, it's astounding, and very frustrating, on both counts. When I started watching boxing 35 years ago, referees let fights go - and in so doing, they gave fighters a chance to come back, and fans a chance to see what they wanted to see. And when they didn't fans rightfully bitched! It amazes me that nearly the opposite it true today. Boxing fans - at least some of them - have become feminized pussies, imo.
"The best fights ever are when a guy gets up and comes back. " That's what I've been saying. If every ref dived in like that there'd be no such thing as a come from behind victory.
I can't comment on this particular fight because I havent seen it yet. But I agree that referees are often stopping fights too early these days. I notice this particularly at the British domestic level; a rising star will have someone buzzed and the ref will call it off early for the other fighter's 'protection'.
Listen, I can almost guarantee you that if it was Arreola that got clocked like that they would have let it go on. In that sense, I agree with jacklondon that there is a corruption factor. Someone was saying that the ref in the Prescott-Khan fight was known for quick stoppages, but in that fight he let it go. Of course he did! But he wouldn't have if it was Prescott on ***** street like that.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBNQNwCyYqk&feature=related[/ame] Do you believe the referee jumped in too late? If so, if YOU were the referee, at what point would you have jumped in? (How many punches before the ref in the fight did?)
Hard to say, probably when his head snapped back, toward the end of the exchange. These sorts of things are the exception to the rule, and in no way justify premature stoppages. People who participate in sports like boxing assume the risks, in order to get the payoffs.
Except there isn't always a major payoff....Boxing at the lower levels barely pays at all. And because you can't tell when at which point a serious injury can occur, is it not better to play it safe as a ref? Forget the fans, it's the referee that has to take the scrutiny when something happens in that ring.
Well, that's why it's a judgement call, and there is room for debate. Some historical fightsm like the Griffith fight you posted could have been stopped somewhat sooner, but there are many more that have been called off too soon. And that robs the combatants and fans alike. That this Arreola fight got called off too quickly is pretty obvious. Not only was the guy on his feet, he was correctly grabbing and tying him up. The fight should have been allowed to continue.
Of course they stop fights soon at a lower level use some common sense Multi million dollar title fights are refed differentl;y and rightfull so
I dont know about anyone else but i feel a standing eight count would of been the right thing to do. Just to realy see if the hurt fighter responds to the orders the reff gives him after the standing eight.If the reff dont like the fighters response,then call it off.
1. The Ref should of let it go and let the guy hit the canvas. It would have likely ended in a TKO immediately after it anyway. 2. Since the rope prevented the Abell from falling, he could have started to count too. (remember that if a Ref feels the rope help a boxer stay up he can still count at his discretion) 3. Abell had no chance anyway. He would have still been TKO'd. 4. This fight is inconsequential. This fight changes little to where Areola is in the pecking order of the HW division. Bad ref, but the results would have been the same. So either way - same ****.