Some still saying Tszyu Overated.

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  1. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But now after reading and seeing highlights of last nights fight between Bradley and Alexander.

    Please if Tszyu was around he would be ****ing KOing these guys.

    And everyone stills talks **** like his resume and he never fought anyone decent.

    Well after watching these two i really think Guys like Hurtado,Gonzalez and even Judah would be kicking Ass in this 140 division right now.

    And if some idiot tries to tell me Tszyu would lose to Khan.

    That will be it.

    I miss Kostya and now to say the division was weak when Tszyu was on top well ****ing Please.

    IDONT WANT TO HEAR IT.

    I can only imagine what Pacquiao would do to these guys aswell no wonder he is fighting Welters.
     
  2. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kotelnik KO1 KT
     
  3. Andy McNab

    Andy McNab Boxing Addict banned

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    I seriously miss seeing Tszyu in the ring. Fantastic fighter
     
  4. Requiem4Hvywht

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    whoever said Bradley or Alexander are future HOFers or ATG potential? Answer me that

    Tzsyu has fans saying he was a ATG which he wasn't. In fact he was a borderline HOFer at best.

    List Tzsyu's biggest wins and losses. After Phillips they pulled back on Tzsyu's competition for a while. What Tzsyu has going for him is eventually he fought most of the best 140lb (in his era), and beat them.

    Which is why he is probably deservedly so a HOF candidate if he is not already in one of the HOFs.

    But if you actually look at who he beat you will see that none of his big wins are against HOF caliber opponents. I mean not even close, but he does have some good wins.

    Also Kostya was taken the limit by OLD and way past their prime former world champs like Roger Mayweather and Bramble. Do you know how many losses Bramble had before fighting Kostya? It is not like Kostya KO'd Bramble like Rosario.

    And again after the Phillips fight Kostya then fights 3 ham & eggers (and please don't try and tell me Rafael Ruelas was good because he wasn't GRASSHOPPER).

    What you are failing to understand is guys like Mitchell, Judah, Urkal, Gonzales in their prime were not equal to Roger Mayweather or Livingston Bramble or even Hugo Pineda.....but look how those fights went.

    Kostya won convincingly but he couldn't run through them. And those guys had been run through before at LOWER WEIGHTS (their prime weight) by TRUE HOFers when they were closer to their PRIMES.

    That says everything that needs to be said.....oh one more thing. When Kostya did face a strong 140lb with some real fighting pedigree in Phillips he got KNOCKED THE **** OUT!

    Kostya was a great amateur fighter but he was by no means a great professional fighter.

    "I am a KNOW IT ALL *****......but I usually do KNOW IT ALL!
     
  5. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    but in fairness khan would beat tszyu

    physical dimensions play a big factor and khan just has too many for kostya
     
  6. 12downfor10

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    Kostya's overhand right was a thing of beauty. His timing and accuracy were awesome
     
  7. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:Im taking it that this is a joke.:yep
     
  8. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    I think Tzsyu is rated just about right, he would more than likely beat everyone at 140 right about now. I can't agree with anyone who calls him an ATG however.
     
  9. Steenalized

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    Tszyu: Well-deserving hall of famers, great fighter to watch, not an "All Time Great" if you want to make that distinction (though it seems like saying someone is a hall of famer would mean they're an all time great, but whatever)
     
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    Barry McGuigan.
     
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    Every Hall of Fame has a few "WTF" members.
     
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    :lol: The WTF Club.
     
  13. BoppaZoo

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    Are you for real. Slamming Kostya for fighting Bramble and Mayweather only after what 15 Pro fights.

    Most guys these days dont have a title fight until after 25 fights.
    **** he faced a former Champ in his 4th Pro fight and did you know that it is fact that no other Boxer in the history of the sport has dont that and Won.

    And to say guys like
    Hurtado, Gonzalez, Judah were not good quality opposition well i really feel all those guys would Own today's 140 division.

    **** Hurtado went 12 solid rounds and fought well against the Great Pernell Whitaker. In his Prime he lost to Tszyu by 5th round KO.
    Same with Gonzlaez went 12 rounds with Prime Del Hoya only to be stopped by Tszyu for the first time.

    Judah went 12 rounds with Floyd winning probably the first 4 rounds.

    He lasted 2 Rounds via Chicken Dance against Tszyu.

    All these guys and i still believe would seriously make Noise in 140 today.

    Yet Tszyu had **** Comp. WTF his Comp back then was far superior to today's.

    This is My Opinion and i feel im right about it.

    I could not see Prime Judah losing to Bradley or Alexander.

    As for Alexander being Southpaw he would not get past round 3 against Tszyu. Tszyu's record was 8-0 with 8 KO's against All Southpaws.

    Jusat goes to show sometimes when we say fighters like Tszyu should not get HOF well **** that after seeing Yesterday's fight.

    And to the guy that thought Khan would beat Tszyu ****ing Please.

    One solid Right Hand Cros with Tszyu's power Khan would never fight again.
     
  14. p.Townend

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    Look at your avatar or whatever its called(picture).
    The dimensions did not bother Hagler.They never bothered Tyson either.
    I think Khan would go the same way as Zab against a prime Kostya.
     
  15. bobthebutcher

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    A prime tszyu runs through the 140lbs division of today, just like he DID in his prime. ATG no, HOF yes, no doubt.