Bob Arum: Storm will be to much for Khan to Weather!

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  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Whether he does it purposefully or not is besides the point. I'm almost certain he didn't intentionally headbutt Devon Alexander.

    But the fact is he does, and its dangerous to his opponent and the fairness of the fight. He has to stop flying in with his head down and stop hiding behind the fact he's throwing a punch when he brings his head in. One is unlucky, twice is very unlucky, but three, four and five times is where he begins to have a duty to look at what he's doing to cause them and put a stop to it.
     
  2. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think its intentional but he fights in a manner where clashes of head are always risky. With him usually being the smaller guy, its his opponent who consistently comes off worse. And I'm not going on what Cunningham said. It was the HBO commentators who were raising the point.
    So you saying that Tims opponents should just accept that they are going to be involved in head clashes when they fight him? On the comments that Arum made, it looks like his headers is the stumbling block on a fight with Paccy.
     
  3. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    I partly agree but i don't see the last 7 fights business bandwagon that people bring up. Imo it's hardly like Andre Ward who lunges in from range and puts his head right into gloves of fighters. The Campbell one he actuall leans down like most fighters do to land to body and Campbell falls in and that clash heads and sadly Bradley has a head made out of granite :lol:.

    I accept that he can be reckless but headclashes are not headbutts and some people seem to not see that. Last night i felt he wasn't reckless with head where as Abregu he was wild on inside with it admittedly after seeing brief clip although not a butt.
     
  4. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Well yeah if you get in the ring with him you may get caught with his head at times. Bradley firefights when on the inside and he's the smaller man and fighters come down to him. I accept at times even the Abregu one he rolls with headwhich he shouldn't do as it's reckless but the Campbell clash wasn't reckless from him. It's as if he's going Golota on people and straight nutting. Alexander brought his head in on round 2 twice that was my initial point.

    Even Khan was like...well not much you can do other then try keep it at range and not fall inside with him.
     
  5. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And damn you for posting videos!
    I feel I have to do the same.:lol:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSqHkuMsoUc[/ame]

    3.30 for butts in round 4 v Holt
     
  6. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    :lol: Fair dues. Got me there but as much as he rises with the head the second Butt as you call them is both men. First is reckless by him and i take on board your point but it's a clash not a butt imo.
     
  7. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I rewatched this fight last week so I knew the butts I mean "clashes":hey were there. I didn't think too much of them at the time of the fight, but since then Bradley has been linked with "clashes" in every fight.
    And......

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl_y2EIlXT8&feature=related[/ame]

    5 min mark and ref calls cut from accidental headbutt
     
  8. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    Timmy could go for Amir, less pay but more chance of winning.
    Or take Arum's offer to fight Manny later this year for more bucks..
     
  9. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Good refereeing there. Called it right..:lol::good

    I won't defend the indefensible but i think when a man's smaller and fights at a size disadvantage and the evidence shows that only a few times has he really been reckless with the head in last 7 fights.

    Let's face it...my Initial point was about Alexanders head coming from the start and Bradley was cut in that fight and against Abregu as well. I'm sure you will say ''oh but Alexander didn't mean it...clash of styles..'' and i agree with you if you say that...but then clash of styles happen with Tim because of way he fights and fighters falling down and him coming up. The evidence you've shown..only 1 ''butt'' was what i would call him being overly reckless and deserving a warning. He's either very good at doing it...or it's just styles and shot happening. I think the later.

    It's a shame but i think there's a difference between him and Ward who fights like a Billy Goat and ruts more and more. (A fan of Ward Btw).
     
  10. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEuPjyXwROQ[/ame]

    Looks like Cherry is the only one who he didn't cut. He must have tough skin:yep (30 secs and ref warns him 55 sec)
     
  11. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Well i watched this fight and Cherry was rolling his head on Bradley on the inside.......Tim was lucky not to get cut himself.

    On 50 seconds he doesn't even touch him with head.....but ref feared that accidental clashes would happen by looks.

    The clashes are accidental Scotty...you've only shown 1 ''butt'' where i can go...''Tim was ilegal with the head there''. The Campbell one was Campbell's fault.

    I think we can confirm that Bradley doesn't do it on purpose. He also gets cut himself...maybe he likes cutting himself.

    I hate headclashes like every other guy but Bradley isn't the Black Golota...he's just an aggressive guy who also gets butted himself.

    I think most people that are smaller and box will agree that if taller men fall in on you and you come up with your punches then it's gonna happen sadly..
     
  12. Uncle Rico

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    I agree with Arum that he'll beat Khan, and I agree with Arum even more when he says Bradley's headbutts are a serious cause for concern. I'm not trying to make any excuses for Devon, but there's no doubt in my mind that the cut and Bradley's continuous use of the head (accidently), hampered is ablility in there. It's unfair if he continues to get away with it. The excuse of it being his style, is not good enough for me.
     
  13. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But it does complete a full house where every world title fight involving Bradley contains head clashes. As I said, it's not deliberate but he is very careless with his nut.
     
  14. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    I give you the last 7 fights...although not all cut and one in last round. I think Team Alexander clutching at straws cos there boy got ''Pissed on!''. Cunninghams words.

    Yeah and his opponents land there head on him as well..sad but true. Alexander landed his head even before Bradley did. It's as i said the fact guys fall in when he gets close..and he comes up with punches.

    I can't see Joel Diaz saying ''Champ...Tim baby...gotta headbutt this guys man...yeah champ headbutt them and it might cut you as well champ..blood and **** champ.''.

    Andre Ward's use of the head is not on..Kessler fight and even against Green he pushes his man back with head in between gloves.
     
  15. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Anyways back to the point! Bob says Bradley will beat Khan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bobfather knows the Truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!