Arum & Pac left HBO and went to SHOWTIME to DUCK Mayweather Jr. (by Jamal Dicky)

all roads lead to manny pacquiao

 

:rofl you don't get it do you? so from you standpoint, as pac is using as you say "undetectable" peds.. then what's the point of them drug tests really?

 

Actually nobody is stating that. How could anybody assume he is using "undetectable PEDs" when he won't even take a random drug test to begin with?

At this point he can be on ANYTHING and we wouldn't know unless he was totally brainless about it. The door for discussion is wide open due to Pacquiao's refusals and contradictions in his public statements.

Manny does the "random" blood and urine tests, and this discussion goes away pretty fast. However, for some reason, Manny would rather have the suspicions about him than accurate results from a drug test.

 

oh your buddy just said it, read his post. undetectable drugs is really clever. there's no winning against it. results come out clean, fighter still cheats.

 

How can it be "undetectable" if he won't take the test to begin with? Maybe it is "detectable," but at this rate we will never know. For all we know, he can be on a bunch of stuff.... We really have nothing to go on other than his word.

Like I said: Manny apparently is fine with people being suspicious of him, instead of just clearing his name with random tests. Most people who are honest and have a sense of pride about their honesty, would have taken the tests in a seconds notice to prove they are clean. Manny is not one of those people. So either he doesn't really care about his image, or he is hiding something. If you care about your image, you take the tests to clear the whole issue up. Unless you have something to hide of course........

 

all right, my bad. so you are not saying, whatever the results of the tests should pac take the random testing that he is still on something that is not detectable?

 

for me, manny should just take the random tests. i think that's the best way to go about both getting the fight done and partially clearing his name. partially because i think even if he tests out clean, some idiots will still doubt him and come up with another explanation. fact is, the mayweathers have smeared pac's name without proof. and albeit the proof of burden should be on them, that is not how it works with the public.

 

if pac really is this peoples champ guy then he needs to take any tests they want him to for his honour


i love pacquiao, love watching him fight, but not taking drug tests, be it from unsubtantiated allegations or not, is inexcusable imo

 

Those people could at least be grouped into the "straight hater" category AFTER he takes the tests, but he is not. And on top of that, he continues to let Bob Arum do this match-making/cherry-picking nonsense. This will be the 3rd fight in a row where I can honestly say: not interested. (Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley) And I've watched Pacquiao for a long time. He's doing his best Mayweather impersonation lately, that is for damn sure.

My problem with Pacquiao is, he is leaving it all up for debate. He claims he has "pride about his reputation" but his actions imply otherwise. All the double-speak from his camp is not helping either.

When it first came up, I didn't think it would be an issue. Ever since Pacquiao has backed down from the drug tests, I have been suspicious of him. Manny has done nothing to ease this suspicion, and has actually increased it with his own words and actions.

 

just lol

 

Don't feed into the hype like that simple ass Floyd hugger fell for. The fights are fixed anyway... Showtime, HBO, ESPN or Oxygen network makes no difference. The outcome of the matches that boxing produces always has a pre-determined out come. Whatever network they choose to air the fight is all about paper, just like ensuring the right man wins at the end of the night. Not all fights are fixed but 90% of them are.

 

Thank you!

If he did the OSDT with Mosley and came out and was just as impressive. Then said FMJ, you see what I can do, if you want this testing? I want 50% and YOU pay for ALL of the testing. All of this would fall in Mayweather's lap.

At this point the constant disconnect between Pac's words, his team's words, and these "dangerous" opponents all sold at Mayweather's expense is becoming quite obvious.

 

just for laughs