This Wlad against Lewis?

According to some people on here a Klit hater is anyone who thinks Wlad would (or even might) lose to all time greats like Lewis, Ali, Foreman etc.

Or just someone who points out that Vitali didn't actually win a fight he lost.

 

Seriously, what the **** has Wlad done to prove he could take a fighter like Lewis? Wlad is scared as **** to get hit, so he won't trade cuz he's a punk (let's face it, the Purity instance was bad enough, but again in Sanders, Falling to the ground on his own will?), he has no inside game, he ain't any stronger than Lewis who also has reach advantage, and he has no dog in him.

Klitschko is a cat. He's a *****.

Vitali has been hittin that **** too hard. Vitali is the man in that relationship.

 

Nicely summed up. Wlad is likely assured of a top 20 ATG placement, and H2H he may even crack the top 10, but that doesn't mean he beats a prime Lewis or a prime Foreman, or a prime Tyson, who on a H2H basis are all probably top 5.

 

Yes because the fact of the matter is that he is a level below Lewis, physically and mentally. Wlad is a fine champ that cannot be denied, but the man has showed to many flaws in the past, for me and a lot of other people to come to the conclusion that he is'nt an ATG and he would'nt fair well against ATGs. Lewis' flaws only came from complacency.
So when you ask who would win a fantasy fight, then that means both men at thier best. Lewis at his best would not be complacent. So from that Wlad stands virtually no chance at all! But this is h/weight boxing and anything can happen. So there is always a chance he would get lucky!

 

Current Wlad would have better than 50/50 chance against the Lewis who beat his brother (although I think that Lewis is underated by ESB's anti-Klitschko crew)

 

I got to say Lewis. Takes away the height advantage, monster right hand, too good of a boxer and fast enough to give Wlad problems

 

No he wouldnt. Even that worst Lewis demolishes the best Wlad. He'd force a brawl. The timid Wlad would fold under the pressure.

 

How is he going to force a brawl when the current, very experienced Wlad Klitschko would anticipate this as a probable Lewis tactic and steel himself for it?
(to the extent that he can - I recognize Wlad Klitscho is not the toughest champ ever, but I think he is now mentally tough enough to avoid Lewis charging in and imposing his will)

 

Lewis forced a brawl against VITLAY who is every bit as good as WALDO at maintaining distance and fighting from the outside. The problem is Lewis at his best could do both, he could win at a distance and brawl, and could also beat the **** out of you in the clinches (WALDOS preferred method for avoiding a brawl)

Common sense tells anyone who actually followed their careers with an open mind that Lewis is a nightmare for WALDO, same as Tyson was.

 

Vitali was willing to brawl; Wlad wouldn't. I don't think Lewis could overpower and demolish Wlad in the clinches even though he's clearly the better infighter. Remember I'm talking odds. I say current wlad has better than 50/50 chance against the version of Lewis that beat his brother. I'm not talking decisive edge - whichever guy is having the better luck that night wins - I just think Wlad is good enough to have an overall edge over a declining Lewis.

 

I didn't realise the thread was about the best version of WALDO v the worst ever version of Lewis, my apologies.

However, the Lewis that beat VITLAY still beats WALDO. The chin will always let WALDO down in this match up, and Lewis wouldn't come in with no fear like he stupidly did against Ruddock and Rahman - that's a back-handed compliment to the danger WALDO brings, Lewis would respect that and fight accordingly.

 

Its tough to say

The blue print to beat Wlad was not out yet

He told Sanders to attack Wlad mostly because he wasnt in the fight and was curious about how hed handle the pressure and that was Sanders's only shot

Lewis would not have flat out rushed Wlad without prior knowledge

They both had great jabs and great right hands

Wlad had the left hook

Lewis had the uppercut

Lewis destroyed Grant a guy of similar size but Wlad was even at this stage way better than Grant

Wlad my have gotten gassed while fighting great like vs Purrity and Brewster

What if Wlad landed first and back then he was the finisher who went for the kill when the guy was hurt

however he would have to walk through hell like Vitali did to land

Lewis would have caught him eventually

Maybe it would turn out like the Bruno fight

Wlad takes an early lead while Lewis figures him out then unloads

Both men have the power to KO eachother with one flush shot and Wlad was not gun shy back then

Lewis 70-30

 

always as in 100% ?? The chin could let Lewis down too. One of Lewis' advantages is probably that he'd be more willing to take chances than Wlad would, but this is definitely a fight where one punch from either guy could set the tone for the fight - so if a cautious Wlad capitalizes on a Lewis mistake then Lewis' aggression could cost him. It's such a cool match-up in that way!

 

Vitali was willing to brawl, but I don't think that is what he wanted. Lewis made him brawl because he had the superior versatility and ring generalship, and whenever both fighters exchanged on the inside Lewis out muscled and beat up Vitali. By the 5th round round Lewis also started to mix it up and was nailing Vitali with solid jabs and hard right upper cuts.

Wlad trying to clinch Lewis would be suicide and there is only one outcome.

 

I find it curious that there are obviously crazy Wlad fans on here that state:

Wlad beating guys 7 years or so after Lewis means the wins are equal BUT Lewis' resume is **** because everybody he beat was too old or past prime....:huh

Yeah, Lewis fought well against big guys, but Grant coming off a good win against Golota, undefeated and tipped by many to actually beat Lewis - well, Grant was ****. BUT Adamek beating a 38 yr old Grant with many more losses and less confidence many years later means Adamek is one of the best heavies in the world. :huh

Some of the arguments are so easy to poke holes in it's not even funny.

I go with KO Kidd's summary, it's about 70/30 for me.

Lewis actually did more than hold an lean in clinches. He got his right hand free and punched. He cheated like ****. Used his head, held behind the head and punched, lot's of filthy, dirty painful ****. I just think Lewis would rough Wlad up too much, and would find a way to win.

There's always the chance Wlad could land something very big and win too, he's good, big, and can really crack.

Lewis couldn't beat Vitaly by boxing in the first 2 rounds of the fight, and was in trouble. So Steward told Lewis to simply brawl him. Just beat him up, and land every punch as hard as he could. I think that's how he'd have to beat Wlad too.