how can any mayweather fan say hes not running scared now

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  1. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    ALL I have to say about the drugs is that there is no reason not to do the full testing. Do you even know how OSDT would work? They wouldn't even test the day of the fight or even 3 days out bc they don't need to. Floyd is only asking for Full testing for both of them so that from the day they start training to the day of the fight neither fighter has put anything illegal in their system. Thats fair. They would probably only do 3 to 4 blood test on both fighters bc they compare all the test against each other and they store them to compare to the post fight test. Manny and his Team should agree to it bc right now we have 3 different stories from that camp. Bob Arum says Manny agreed to 14 days which was no longer an option, Manny said he will take any test as long as it is not the day of the fight, and Koncz said a 7 day cut off was proposed. Please tell me which guy is right bc they all are not on the same page.Now lets get back to talking boxing bc you fail to respond to my question for the 4th time. When Manny is not able to land those combos bc Floyd is not there to be hit then what?
     
  2. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Yes I seen how the Welterweight Champ landed a kill shot on Floyd that Floyd did not see but still stayed up and dominated the rest of the round. I seen that. I seen how Floyd beat a guy 11 rounds to 1. What else you got?:happy
     
  3. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im a pacfan but floyd is sonn to be 34 , ex superfeather , he should be retired

    I'd love to see him fight pac but if he wants to retire , thats up to him !
     
  4. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So beating a 40 year old of a 16 month layoff 11 rounds by outboxing him is something special ? That is exactly what he is supposed to do. The guy is 40!

    You think he will outbox Manny ? You think Manny wil be as tired as Mosley was in rd 2 ? Doubt it. U are talking about the best conditioned and offensive fighter of the last decade at worst.
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    No the best conditioned fighter has always been Floyd. Remember Manny would get tired late in fights before Diaz. Get over it dude. Its so funny how you discredit Floyd's win yet you support Manny fighting the same guy who is even older and looked bad in his very next fight after getting dominated by Floyd. Any true boxing fan would point that out unlike your bias casual ass. Now you just failed again so try again. :nono:|
     
  6. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    EXACTABOX you are still failing to answer the question that I asked. What does Manny do when he can't land those combos bc Floyd is not there to be hit with them? Please answer that. Is that all he has or something? Is that the reason you can't answer. See, I think you hate Floyd personally but you know that when its all said and done you are going to go with Floyd in that fight like the majority will. Can you answer the questions dude. I don't know if its bc you can't break down a fight or what but you are sacred to answer. Its like I asked you for full OSDT or something bc you are flip flopping.
     
  7. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Come on EXACTABOX. I need you to answer the question. I mean what do you think of us, stupid? HA HA HA!
     
  8. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    See EXACTABOX you are a prime example of what happens when a casual fan gets into a debate with someone who is a die hard fan, a person who is actually in a boxing gym and has boxed before. You ran the **** off when asked a simple question. You must be Benjamin Linus. Benjamin is that you?
     
  9. bollocks

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    I don't think Floyd won't be not there all the time. He will get hit if not the first or second or 3rd , it will be the 4th or 5th sets of combinations from Pac. Unlike SSM, Pac won't give up on the 2nd round. It will be a long night for both fighters and they will be severely tested by each other. It won't be an easy night for both fighters; certainly not as easy as their hardcore fans are claiming it would be.
     
  10. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Nobody said it will be easy. The point is most people don't understand that Manny vs Floyd is not the same as Manny vs flat footed guys with no defense. Let me give you a prime example. Floyd does something that I have never seen any fighter do to Manny. Floyd will throw his right hand and if he misses he will shove your ass and do certain things that won'y allow you to make him pay for his misses. You say the 4th or 5th set of combinations but all Floyd has to do is step out of range and the combination goes out the window. Why do you think Manny couldn't land all those combinations on JMM
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  11. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If a much slower and less versatile Mosley can hit Mayweather, what makes you think Pac won't find his target? :huh :huh :huh

    Also, do you think Mayweather can win that fight just by running and avoiding Pac's combo? At some point, he must commit and do his offense, that's the time Pac will catch him.

    If the scenario of the round is this: Pac is the aggressor running after Floyd, Pac threw 120 punches, missed a lot of them. Floyd is well, like you said, not there to be hit because he was moving around. Pac landed only 20 out of 120 punches. Floyd landed 100% (exaggeration) of his punches. (when I say 100%, that's equal to 20 punches per round, well, what a coincidence, that's equal to Pac's landed punch) How will the judges score that round?
     
  12. bollocks

    bollocks Active Member Full Member

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    That's true, the same way that Pac vs. Floyd won't be like Floyd vs. Gatti or N'dou either. If Floyd misses with that right hand, then it is possible that Pac has already moved to Floyd's right hand side ready to throw a left hook to counter. Pac matches Floyd in the speed department so this is entirely doable. Floyd can afford to not pay for his misses on fighters that are slower than him. Pac is different.

    It's a valid point to look at the JMM fight as a footprint to beat Pac but he has made significant improvements since that fight. I think Pac's counter-punching has improved significantly and is being underrated by even his fans. His defence (considering his style) has also improved. Whilst he already had a right hand during the JMM fight, I feel that it wasn't as polished as now. During the Margo fight, I also saw him do evasive movements with his shoulders that made Margo miss a few shots. Obviously, Margo isn't as fast as FLoyd but my point was that I have never seen Pac do that before and proof that he is evolving as a fighter. He also has a good corner; Ariza will make sure Pac can hound Floyd the whole 12 rounds and Roach will come up with several game plans that we know Manny is perfectly capable of executing come fight night.

    If there is anything that I would like Pac to improve, it would be for him to do more head movements when he fights Floyd as am sure a lot of jabs will be thrown by Floyd. This fight must happen and really, this ***** vs. ******* thing should be laid to rest for now. We should all be one is saying to Floyd and Pac that they must fight. They should come to terms and just fight because as fans of boxing or even just fans of both or either fighters.
     
  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    calzaghe vs b-hop?
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    well he is not running scared. he's just officially on vacation and would not be bothered or forced to fight. if he retired without fighting pacquiao, this will hunt him and historians will forever question why he did not fight the guy who stole the limelight from him.
     
  15. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    You fail to realize that Floyd is the most accurate puncher in the history of the damn sport. Running and being out of range are two totally different things. I never said Manny will not hit Floyd. I said that he will not be hitting Floyd with combinations all night. If you think Manny will just walk Floyd down you are sadly mistaking. Floyd hits harder than what you think. Mosley couldn't walk him down and he has the chin to do it.