Do you give Manny Pacquiao a pass for ducking his competition at 135? Probably.... I never see you mentioning about how Pacquiao fought the weakest champion in the division, did not rematch JMM, and did not fight any other champions.
Just comparing Floyd to the 3 potential opponents. Floyd has bragged that he does not get hurt in the ring, because of defense, accurate punching and superior boxing IQ. If you have hurt yourself multiple times in training, how long does your "vacation" last before you heal and what about your upcoming fight you trained for? Postponed? I'm pretty sure Cotto, Pac and Margarito goes on vacation, but after a fight. The kind Pacquiao took with his family after the Margarito fight, to Japan and Australia. Not the Floyd variety, in his home in Las Vegas.
You need to look up what an "assumption" is. Bob Arum is quoted. That is not an assumption, that is words out of his mouth back when he was still on good terms with Mayweather because he wanted to resign him to a Top Rank contract. "He wanted 8 million for Cotto/Margarito, 10 million for Hatton, and 20 for Oscar. That just wasn't in the cards. You have to know when to hold them, and when to fold them." --- Bob Arum when speaking about his potential multifight deal with Mayweather. How is that Mayweather's fault? Especially considering how much money he made from the Hatton/Oscar fight. Bob Arum was dead wrong about his earning power, period. As for the Bold: Are you ****ing stupid or something? Al Haymon should be approached by Top Rank reps. if they want the fight made. That's how business is done. Your comment is so beyond ridiculous, I am speechless. If Bob Arum wanted these fights to be made, they would be made.
True but expressed interest in two of those fights and he claimed he left 135 because he couldn't get anybody to fight him there. Now realize Lance this was when Floyd was the high risk-low reward fighter and very willing to try and knock you out
He fought JMM twice for ****'s sake.atsch And he moved up and beat the top guy at 140 then took bigger challenges after. Was Sosa or N'Dou bigger threat then Casamayor or Freitas at 135? Was Gatti a bigger threat then Harris was at the time at 140? Or Brusseles and Corley? Floyd was the mando to Harris, yet went the easier (albit more lucrative) route with Brusseles and Gatti.
He postponed the Marquez fight because of his ribs, but like I said, Floyd have injuries from taking a beating, more like injuries for giving a beating like his hand [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fswFNvqgyk[/ame] watch at 14 seconds in the video. it's the only official knockdown of Floyd's career
So yes, you give him a pass for picking the weakest champion in the division and moving on. Just exposing your bias. Brusseles and Corley were WBC title eliminator bouts and Mayweather HAD to fight them to get a title shot at 140 pounds. Again with the half-truths.
Highlighted, you are assuming, this is not fact like you keep claiming. When was he quoted saying this again? Was this quote still valid after the Hatton bout when Mayweather "retired"? Quote me as calling Mayweather a ducker. I have not once put it all on Mayweather, but you trying to put the blame on everyone else is not correct. The fact still remains that Mayweather was "retired"...if there was even a small chance of those bouts being made...Mayweather was not the one to make the effort, whilst others fought each other. You keep assuming I'm putting all the blame on Mayweather, but you really do need to start reading my posts...you jumped into a debate half way through and you don't even know what I'm arguing. I guess you believe I'm some die-hard Pacquiao fan? Like I said, laughable.
Expressed interest? Like caling out Winky is expressing interest? :roll: There have been WAAY too many big names Floyud COULD have taken but for one reason or another, never happened. Common theme for them, Floyd. Look at DLH, he actually went and fought most of the best. Even Cotto has been doing it since he left 140.
well if nobody wants to fight you then what can you do. FLoyd was very avoided when he was below 140.
SRL was "retired" when they negotiated the Hagler vs Leonard bout. Your whole argument is bogus. If Arum wanted the fights, all he had to do was put the money up. It's that simple. As for your so-called assumption of mine: It's not. It's just business, something you obviously don't have a clue about. Again I pose you the question: What potential gain/loss is there for Arum, if he puts up millions of dollars to Mayweather to fight a Top Rank fighter, when Mayweather is not obligated to keep fighting under the Top Rank banner? It's a lose lose in a business sense and that's why Arum was trying to lock him into a multifight deal. That is not "speculation" or "assumption" that is a BUSINESS CERTAINTY.
I'm ****ing stupid for stating the opposite of the highlighted, but your not ****ing stupid for suggesting Mayweather has to be contacted for a bout to be made? Get his ****ing balls out of your mouth.
Yet you believe people need to contact Mayweather for a bout to be made, get a grip. It is business, but it is also an assumption...I suggest you go look the word up. I couldn't care less about the money factor...you don't even know what my argument is in this thread, like I said, you joined half way through a debate and ASSUMED. Go read my earlier posts in this thread before you reply.
Oh please....grow up dude. He took on bigger challenges immediately after. I am aware of this. Yes, he went through TWO eliminators to face the weakest champ at 140. Good argument.