Did Wlad duck Tua?

I think the reason Sosnowski got so much was because the fight was in Germany,
and the Klitschkos knew the polish fans would come out big time to support Sosnowski......

 

I actually don't mind what Sosnowski was paid as I think there's a limit to the offer when you fight for a world title, especially when the opponents are as popular as the Klitschko's. Same thing I said about Khan fighting McCloskey. There's a limit to what is acceptable and I think a million is about right. The Klitschko's are earning many, many more times than a million, especially as they promote the fights, so I don't have a problem with Sosnowski earning that. He deserved a payday for being a decent, tough fighter.

The only issue I have though, is that the Tua offer way way below that. It's also way below what I think a challenger, in a big fight, deserves. Tua may be old and not as good as he was, but he still brings more to the table than Sosnowski and is a better fighter for him, so I can't understand at all, why he was offered less.

 

Tua could have countered, but at such a low rate, why bother. Tua was also not ready for Wlad, and the $400,000 confirmed his reluctance. He just needs to have more to bargain with other than a win over Cameron and Friday (at that time). He needs to get the WBO to sanction a mandatory. Tua is #2. Adamek is #1, and will get his chance in September against Klit. So...the WBO is telling Tua now that he'll need to fight a quality fighter to retain his #2 ranking. I would take it a step further if I was Tua, and say, "who do I need to fight to get a mandatory?" With Wlad also the champ in the IBF, the WBO needs to create a top opponent for Tua, so that Wlad doesn's fight Chisora, Adamek, and then an IBF contender.

 

Because he hasn't been relevant for about 10 years, and every time he got to the top he's been beaten soundly. He doesn't have any skills to make a competitive fight and little marketing value.

 

Tua used to be one of my favorite fighters. I still like the guy, but as a fighter, he's shot. $400,000 seems fair to me. I mean, Wladimir didn't even have to offer Tua anything, they could have just skipped over him entirely.

I don't think you can really complain about an offer than just appears in a fighters hands, when he does not deserve a world title shot. You take it, or don't...but don't complain about it.

As for Sosnowski getting much more, I can definitely see that. I read that the entire fight (I'm not referring to Sosnowski & Vitali's purse, but all revenue) brought in around $25 million.

One more thing..... I read complaints all the time about lumping the brothers together, and speaking about them as "one fighter" when discussing their dominance (I think the reason the are talked about in the same breath is because they are brothers, and the historical perspective of it).

Well, if that bothers you (not saying you specifically, but other posters), than you can't go lumping them together when talking about what fighters were offered (Sosnowski vs Tua).

 

I think that was the issue. Wlad felt Tua should have been grateful to even being given the chance. The $400,000 was a bonus.

 

A million is more that Sosnowski deserved.

But, if for some reason or other, you end up in a title shot, then you will take home more money than you are used to.

As far as you are concerned Tua brought more to the table. As far as Wlad is concerned Tua was worth $400K. Tua is a recognisable name, but he has a reputation as being well beyond shot, and a small fanbase. People quite like Tua but that doesn't translate into sales.
Tua earned money fighting Cameron because they are both New Zealanders, and having two countrymen fight in such a way always pushes the revenue way up.

Fighting Sosnowski quite likely brought in a lot more revenue that fighting Tua would have done, and may also have increased market exposure in the desired areas. Noone is strategically trying to obtain New Zealand TV rights.

Again this all comes down to market forces. Chisora is getting way, way, way more than he is worth - because for some reason it is worth it to Wlad.
Sosnowski got more than he was worth - because it was worth is to Vitali.
Tua would have got $400K - because that is what he was worth. If it was worth more to the Klit brothers then one of them would have offered him more. That's how market forces work.

Tua getting an offer for 400K is fine. Sosnowski getting a million seems a bit excessive. Chisora getting even more? That's crazy.

I'm starting to wonder why the Klit contracts are so generous. Why did Sosnowski get so much? Why is Chisora getting so much (why is he even getting a fight at all?) I know the Klit brothers are big believers in charity, but they are in boxing to make money.

 

Tua? Hell he could not even beat Barrett!

 

Wladimir never fights Sosnowski, Briggs.

In his last fights Wladimir fights his mandatories! Peter, Chambers, Chagaev WBA Champion(Haye pulls out on short notice), Thompson, Rahman, Ibragimov (unification).

 

Vitali and Vlad both fight the very best they can get. I can't remember when contenders have refused to fight the champions. Haye takes the easiest way out. Haye refuses to fight his mandatory Chagaev, and will not fight a top fighter. Mormeck? Harrision? How sick?!

 

Tua's finished on world level in my opinion....

 

Of course Glass Jaw Wlad ducked Tua.

He is Now propably ducking Monte Barret too.

 

Barret is in his prime now.

 

No. He was mentioned as a potential future opponent for Haye and also the Klits when he had an impressive comeback win against Shane Cameron. Unfortunately after that fight he said first thing he was doing was heading off to Burger King. Apparently he lives there now and is back to old habits. After the Barrett fight he's probably blown his last chance at another title shot.

 

no
tua would only be fighting for the $$$ anyways, runnin skeered like he did in his prime against lewis