All jack does is make up **** and play it off as fact.. yes wlad agreed to fight Haye in teh UK and Haye bottled it refused to secure a venue.. hence why their originol fight was moved to Geremany before Haye bitched out.
atschatschatsch They've never beaten the #2 guy. Because it's their brother. So they have not "beat the best fighters of this era." They are the best fighters of this era, but won't fight each other. I don't blame them for not fighting each other though.
Facts; - negotiations between representatives of Haye and Klitschko lasted three week - Haye had agreed to fight in Germany and agreed to an even revenue split - neutral officials had been agreed - a date of April 30 was fine for RTL but Sky Sports was not willing to do two pay-per-views in the same month; they already have WBA light-welter boss Amir Khan v TBA lined up for April 16th - Sky Sports was unwilling to move it to accommodate Haye v Klitschko - there were no dates in May or June that worked for both networks - the first available date that works for both networks and a potential venue is July 2 - both camps were prepared to fight on July 2nd but Haye's manager, Adam Booth, was unwilling to allow Klitschko to take an interim fight before July - Klitschko's representatives have no problem with Haye taking a fight before then - Klitschko has not fought since the knockout of Samuel Peter on September 11 and refused to wait nine months before taking another fight Wlad is still willing to take the fight, can´t wait to hear what´s David answer. Haye probably knew of Chagaev´s hepatitis (like everybody else) and refused to fight Chagaev in Germany, which brought on WBA´s fine decision about an eliminator bout. Mormeck and Rahman are going settle who´s the mandatory, which Haye has to face. Mormeck-Rahman takes place in May 7th. Wlad is fighting Chisora in April 30th. Haye has to fight either his mandatory (Mormeck or Rahman) or a unification bout. Which is it going to be? It´s crystal clear that Wlad-Haye fight is up to David. Everything is ready, just sign the paper, please!
Because you said they have "beat the best fighters of their era." The best fighter is their brother, so they haven't "beaten the best fighters of their era" have they?
Even then im not sure ill believe it then, after the bell rings haye will probably fake rolling an ankle in his first step. i find it hilarious that there are still haye fans defending him, thats just downright laughable.
So they have beaten the best fighters of their era, without fighting the #2 guy in the division? Such a weird logic
Nope. But if they can’t fight number two guy in the division (whatever the reason) you can’t say, that they have fight the best fighters in the division, now can you. Its not rocket science
Clearly this is a rare exception. You have to be either a troll, a moron, or both to not accept that. They're brothers and they swore to their mother that they wouldn't fight each other. This is an extenuating circumstance that moves beyond what we normally see.
I never said I don’t accept it. Still it’s a fact that they haven’t fought the number two guy in their era. Accepting it doesn’t mean I give them credit for doing something that they haven’t done
Accepting it also means you overlook it because of the circumstance. You don't give them credit for it and you don't hold it against them either.
Yeah that’s exactly why I don’t give them credit, for fighting all the best fighters of their era. They haven’t accomplished that, so in my mind it’s weird to say they have. I can say that they have fought and beat many top contenders of their era. (especially Wladimir. Vitali not so much)
They are both full of crap!!!! just don't give a damn what either of them say. They are ducking each other, but both need to be seen to be wanting to make the fight. It's all bull****.
So David Haye is helpless in the hands of his promoters and WBA? Do you have any sourzes on these arguments, or is it simple general boxing knowledge? :think (And btw, I had no idea Dabid Haye was contracted with Don King.)