Emile Griffith vs Gene Fullmer

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    15 rounds, of course..1966 Emile Griffith vs 1959 Gene Fullmer.
     
  2. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Griffith UD.
     
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    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    griffiths beats fullmer by decision
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with you guys..Griffith could get cute and handle strong, rough guys like Fullmer and Tiger.
     
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    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    tiger was no problem for emile
     
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    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Fullmer's unorthodoxy (and fouling) would have troubled Griffith more than Tiger's steady attacks did...and that first Tiger fight, alot of people thought Tiger won. I would still pick Griffith by decision due to being able to get his punches off quicker, and maintaining distance...if Griffith doesn't maintain that distance he loses by 15 round mugging.
     
  7. laxpdx

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    A fine analysis.:good
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    And I believe that Griffith would have maintained the distance in the same way he did vs Tiger. That was the neat thing about Griffith was his adaptability...a boxer vs Tiger...a semi-agressive, crowding type of guy vs Archer...he would have conservatively outboxed Gene over 15..it would have been close as hell and no real damage would have been done to either guy. Gene would have noticed a big difference, strength and savvy-wise with Griff as opposed to that other welter, Paret, for instance.
     
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    Thanks laxpdx.:good
     
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    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. Griffith's strength sees him through the rough inside stuff. I see him being able to maintain that distance consistantly enough for the win. Paret wasn't a bad fighter at all, he just fought a totally wrong strategy and got caught in a fight of going toe to toe with a strong, brawling middleweight.
     
  11. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Agreed.

    I think Fullmer's unorthodox rushes and unbridled aggression could trouble Griffith like mad. Now, Griffith is a superb textbook boxer and when he is allowed to box he can do fantastic stuff, but Luis Manuel Rodriguez had an unorthodox rhythym in his boxing, and really messed up Griffith's range control. And early in Emile's career a tough Argentinian named Jorge Fernandez troubled Griffith with a fast aggressive inside strategy, Griffith countered this by getting down of his toes and punching to keep Fernandez off and it worked.

    I just don't see Griffith punching hard enough to keep Fullmer off of him, or to back up Gene. So for that reason I favour Fullmer.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree:good
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Interesting analysis GP..in other words Fullmer's unorthodox ways would present Griff with more problems than Tiger's more methodical approach? Fullmer was somewhat of a more sophisticated and purposeful Oscar Bonavena stylewise.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was a good welter, but Paret just didn't have the wherewithall and strength to deal with a Fullmer.
     
  15. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fullmer probably draws Griffith into a mess and does more of the work to earn the judges' decision.