Most ducked fighter in the last 20 years?

James Toney?

 

Very, very true.

 

Question? What period of time was Nate avoided? He humiliates himself via KO by Peden; gets rematch and stopped again; moves up to LW and loses two with Isaac and Lorenzo; finally gets title against Diaz; beats Ali Funeka, but fails to make weight; moves up to JWW and one no contest followed by two losses and his retirement. As reigning LW champ, I felt he milked it and was looking for big money fights that did not come to fruition.

 

Winky overestimated his drawing power, and although I know he was trying to be a prudent businessman he should have taken the De la Hoya fight. Oscar is not just a great fighter, he's also a great businessman. He didn't have to offer him anything. But he did. Was it low? Yes. But it was the highest offer he would ever receive in his career and he put in a provision that would have made him money on the back end if the PPV did well. Not to mention that a win would put him in stardom, even more so than the Mosley & Trinidad fights. And if it were a close fight, he'd get something from the rematch. His string of fights/victories would have read:

Mosley UD12
Mosley UD12
Trinidad UD12
De la Hoya ???
Mayweather ???
Hopkins L12

He prices himself out of a fight with Floyd Mayweather. He also priced himself out of a rematch with Jermain Taylor. A winnable fight that he should have jumped on board. He wasn't scared he was just stupid. There is a reason why he fought in Europe early in his career; his style was difficult to market and his personality was pretty bland. He was a nice guy but he wasn't animated enough to become a personality in the boxing world that would keep him relevant despite having a defensive and "purist appreciated" style.

Winky may have been ducked early in his career, but he was given plenty of opportunities against:

Mosley 2x
Trinidad
De la Hoya
Mayweather
Hopkins
Taylor 2x

He didn't take advantage of the offers that were presented to him, offers that would have extended his exposure to the public and made him a star in his own right. He gets no pity from me nor should he be given the distinction of being the most ducked fighter of the past 20 years.

 

Three words. Sugar Nicky Valuev.

 

Actually Lennox priced himself out of a Bowe fight in 1993. Bowe wanted the fight but Neuman didn't want to meet Lewis's guarantee. So when Lewis was the mandatory Bowe under Rock's instructions dumped the belt because they felt the WBC disrespected them. Even as Lewis fought Tony Tucker the talks were still on.

Later on in 1994 when talks of a fight re-emerged Lewis gets KO'd by McCall.

In 1996-1997 Bowe was supposed to fight either Tyson or Lewis. The Tyson fight fell through but Lewis was in his sights. Bowe would have fought Lewis if he beat Golota without the DQ. Golota emerged with a reputation of a top tier but mentally unstable fighter who would be dangerous for anybody. Lewis fought him in 1997.

Lewis priced himself out against Tyson when he was presented with a $13.5 million offer in 1995. Lewis declined and fought Ray Mercer. The "step aside" money was paid as a result of a court case where Lewis won damages for lost revenues.

A Holyfield fight never really materialized because Holyfield lost to Bowe, then Moorer setting his career back and putting any fight in the backburner.

 

prime margarito.

 

Who exactly did Floyd Mayweather Jr. duck?

He tried to get a fight with Mosley in 1999 and 2006. Shane declined twice.

He tried to get a fight with Kotsya Tszyu in 2005 but Tszyu's camp decided to
go with Hatton with the winner facing Mayweather.

He tried to get a fight with Cotto in 2005, Cotto's camp said they weren't ready.

He tried to get a fight with Winky Wright and Winky priced himself out.

He was on board to fight with Margarito but a multi-fight deal was attached to it. He was willing to accept it if Bob Arum would meet his guarantees.

He was going to take $8 million for Magarito
He wanted $10 million for Cotto
He wanted $10 million for Hatton
and lastly he wanted $20 million for De la Hoya

Arum countered and told him he'd get $7 million for Hatton and $7 million for Cotto and he would not be interested in putting together a De la Hoya fight. So Floyd did what he felt was in his financial best interest; he bought out his contract during the open window period for $750K.

He ends up fighting Baldormir for $8,000,001.00
Then he fights De la Hoya for $25 million
The fights Hatton for $18 million

This of course came at the expense of not getting shots at Top Rank fighters which include Cotto, Clottey and Margarito.

By the time Mosley wanted the fight it was Floyd who had the upper hand in the negotiating table. He decided to fight JMM for $10 million.

Pacquio is a different story and frankly is a fight that will happen simply because the money is too big for it not to take place.

So who was he ducking?

Paul Williams?
After all; Mosley, Pacquiao, Cotto didn't fight him. They don't seem to get the blame.

 

Winky Wright

 

He hit like a PUSS! although he did have good skills..

 

I will never ever believe that Winky priced himself out of a fight with DLH. The real case was probably that DLH offered a guy of Winky's stature joke money just like Hopkins offered Adamek joke money so Hopkins could claim that he tried to make the fight when in reality, he didn't. Same with DLH. He just probably contacted Winky's people and offered him chump change and Winky laughed at the offer. Then people can say Winky priced himself out.

Winky had nothing to lose and everything to gain by fighting DLH. Recognition, huge pay day and also, bigger pay in the future as his name would've been more known. DLH had nothing to gain by fighting Winky but another dominating loss.

 

Corrie Sanders a southpaw with a hard left hand and great hand speed nobody wanted him

He almost retired after losing to Rahman knowing nobody had any reason to fight him and got Wlad after 13 other guys said no

he was really avoided

 

Viacheslav Senchenko 31-0
Selcuk Aydin 20-0
Anton Novikov 19-0
Valeriy Brazhnyk 25-0
Grzegorz Proksa 22-0
Dominik Britsch 20-0
Maksym Bursak 21-0
Sebastian Zbik 30-0
Vitaliy Kopylenko 12-0
Serhiy Dzinziruk 37-0
Siarhei Rabchanka 15-0
Kostyantyn Rovenskyy 15-0

 

Humberto Soto is anotehr great pick

 

GTFO with that crap man. This is a business. You have to get what you are worth. Say DLH offered him 500K and everyone agrees that he should get at least $3-5 million, should Winky take the fight? Heck no?

Should Adamek have taken $1 million to fight Hopkins when in reality, Adamek is the bigger draw and he should've gotten close to a 50/50 split? No. You can't just let people COMPLETELY low ball you. That means the party who low balled you weren't serious to begin with.

If you were applying for a job and you know you are worth 100K and everyone knows this and but they offer you 25K, do you take it?