If adamek beats wlad, does he surpass pacman's weight jumping exploits?

It's Jack's damage control/Adamek hate because his boy Haye is a coward.

 

Jack would play a different tune if the question concerned Haye. Saying that Adamek winning over Wlad can only be the result of Wlad's flaws and would have nothing to do with Adamek, is absurd.

 

The cruiserweight division has only been around a short time, so it's no real surprise why it hasn't. The two best fighters from 175lbs onwards, Jones and Toney, were both better light heavies, cruisers and heavyweights than Adamek is.

Who cares if Adamek is the first to do it? It's not like he's the best fighter to compete in all three divisions.

 

Why not?

 

it would be great for adamek in general, and catapult him into a new level of stardom. in my eyes definitely on a par with pac, because he's been the underdog ever since he went up to heavyweight and to be the man to topple klitchko would be a huge thing.
although i doubt it happens.........

 

I didn't say it's nothing to do with Adamek. I said that, if he wins, it's more to do with Wlad's flaws. His flaws have cost him all three fights so far in his career, rather than the opponent being better, and it would be the sane should Adamek beat him.

 

Not sure I agree with this.

Wlad has been dominating every opponent for a good number of years now. Adamek picking up any kind of win over Wlad would be classed as a great win, whether that win was via knockout or decision...I'm not even sure which one would be more impressive at this point.

Even if Wlad were to show a huge flaw (chin)...no-one has even come close to "exposing" said flaw for a long time...and the fact that Adamek hasn't shown good/great power up at Heavyweight would make it even more impressive for me.

I don't quite see your logic behind the, "Adamek wasn't impressive enough against Arreola, Grant etc., for a Wlad win to be considered great"...he wasn't impressive, and his performance against Grant especially makes me think Wlad will win with ease...but wouldn't his unimpressive performances against opposition like Grant make a victory over Wlad that even more impressive? :huh

 

Does your girlfriend weigh 165lbs?


Poor little *******, no wonder you're so angry.

 

People put too much emphasis on prime sometime. Vitali isn't as good as he was, but he's still good enough to beat rather easily everyone in the division except is brother.

 

:deal good old jack for you nothing like a biased homer who will go to great lengths to defend and make up "facts" to stick up for his nations fighters.

also i think Pac's resume is more impressive but that being said adamack started off at 175 wlad would be what close to 250 lbs and not an ounce of fat that would be very impressive.

 

The performances over Arreola and Grant prove to me that Adamek is a thoroughly limited and mediocre heavyweight, so if hr beats Wlad, that result will be no different to the losses against Sanders, Brewster or Purrity. Those wins aren't great victories and there's nobody who would say they are. For the fighters themselves, yes, they are great and by far the defining moment of their careers, but for everyone else, they are almost insignificant wins. A great win is when one top quality fighter because another but, if Adamek wins, it will be a top quality fighter losing to a mediocre heavyweight and in that case, it would be seen as similar to fights like Lewis/Rahman. The only way Adamek can win,is by exposing a flaw in Klitschko's game, just like Sanders, Brewster and Purrity did against him or like Rahman did against Lewis, and the fact is, those wins don't go down in the history books as great.

 

How awesome would that be though... He'd be pulling a holyfield.

 

Not quite, but he should be considered in the top 5 p4p for sure, possibly top 3.
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There's high school football, then there's the NFL. Get over it.