.Rafael: "Floyd would TOY with Tito Trinidad and he would beat JCC as well"

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  1. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be fair and putting all the hate aside, i think Floyd would embarrass Tito and JCC in the ring. No doubt in my mind. There arent many fighters in history who can hand Floyd his defeat and this two definitely are not among them.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't disagree. Both Trinidad and Chavez are one-dimensional, they would give Mayweather trouble but will eventually get out-landed.
     
  3. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tito is as guilty as Manny is to PED's:patsch
     
  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    floyd had his ass beat by castillo in fight 1....barley beat a 35 year old shot DLH. only problem is....if floyd wont even fight the best in his own era (well at least for the last 10 years when it counts) dont tell us what he would do to other LEGENDS who had the balls to take fights/risks where they fought guys where the werent favored by 99 of 100 people.

    to be fair as you say..its obvious you werent anywhere around when chavez and tito were in their prime....its not the same making your opinion up from watching **** quality youtube footage of it

    great fighters / dangerous threats to floyd that HBO and the boxing public wanted and thought should have happened at some point..at some point there was a time when these guys were hot, avoided, and available....and somehow floyd managed to not get in their with them

    Vernon Forrest
    Winky
    Cotto
    Paul WIlliams
    Margarito
    Mosley (not the ghost of mosley)
    Pac Man
    to lesser extents
    Randall Bailey at 140 more exciting than Henry ****ing Brussels

    the list could go on..


    yeah yeah i know...they didnt bring nothing to the table....blah blah....
    but , chop chop, baldomir, losing streak judah, sharmba mitchell, JMM, all those were just watched with super interest
     
  5. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is hard to say, if Floyd would have easily beaten Chavez or Tito... Floyd in his career has really never face someone other than Castillo that put pressure on him and DLH at times. They were successful at times. Two things Tito and Chavez love doing. Shane was able to catch Floyd with a good one and I think Tito's reach and very underrated body attack and constant pressure could have presented Floyd with problems. Chavez heart and determination, pressure and his peoples support and cutting the ring could have presented Floyd with problems as well. We will never know, but to say Floyd would have easily beaten both of them esp. Tito at 147 is shocking.
     
  6. 1_man_army

    1_man_army The Knockout King Full Member

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    I can see him keeping Tito at bay and winning a good UD. Chavez though is the sort of guy who can grind out a win against Floyd, he might loose a few of the early rounds but he can wear Floyd down later in what I'd see as a scrappy kind of fight.
     
  7. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Tito was accurate as was Chavez. I think Floyd gives them problems(especially against Chavez above 140) but Trinidad and Chavez still have a puncher's chance. The WW Trinidad against the Mayweather of the Mosley fight, if Trinidad hurts him like Mosley did he WILL finish him. Chavez below 147 has a great shot against Floyd but I do think Floyd's speed would give him problems like Taylor did though knowing Chavez he will be determind and use accumulative damage like he did against Taylor. I don't think these fights would be as one-sided as people make them because WW Trinidad & Chavez SFW, 135, & 140 were still dangerous. I doubt he would fight them at their best anyways but it's ashame he's like that, the kid has so much talent.
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    shocker that you and your lifetime avatar of the modern ducker would say that. But im sure you base that off the chavez you saw against willie wise or tszyu and not the one where hes actually in his prime....mayweather outlands alot of people, youre right, alot of old ass shot fighters with pretty names and PAST accomplishments....

    if this guy outlanded mayweather...and chased his ass all over the ring, beating him up in the corners all night....

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    then chavez has a pretty good chance of really giving the loss to him he should already have

    looks to me...that floyd was outlanded here..or did you forget about that fight? and numbers dont always tell the story, so most of floyds jabs were "get the **** off me pawing extensions of his arm while in high tail REVERSE" so it should reflect worse than what it shows there...i watched it live with 10 people and not one thought floyd won, neither did HBOs team, minus that meat head ledderman whos wrong 90% of the time and the audience boo'd it...and thats before floyd was "the bad guy"

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    20,000 posts and you probably havent even watched boxing but a few years..... i get it......:lol::deal:hi:
     
  9. NullpointerAlex

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    Scar is a joke... He probably had to lookup who was Tito and Chavez... :tired

    And wait... Who else is one dimensional and would also lose Floyd.... Hmm... Was it Marg... Cot... Wil... Hm... Pa... ****... I can't remember... SO many one dimensional fighters out there, May beats all of the easy...

    Did the OP mention that the fantasy matchup were against prime boxers? Or maybe Floyd only wins because they're much older and/or smaller than him, which is the only way he'll fight them, even in fantasy matchups? Seriously, no question about it, Floyd ducks them both.
     
  10. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    I almost missed this Scar....

    Chavez was 89-0 at one point with

    27 legit WBA, WBC world title championship fights

    you ****ing dummy. :patsch

    how does a 1 dimensional fighter achieve that?? :rofl:rofl

    being a 3 weight division champion and beating guys to get that like Rosario, Ramierez, Meldrick Taylor, uncle roger 2 times....

    but the great floyd would win because youre so historic with your knowledge..... floyds a coward and wouldnt fight him anyway...he dont even fight the best from his on time....
    oh i know....he fought the best availabe at the time... yeah and you can shove that up your ass if you want anyone to believe that....its a joke and hes a fraud the last 5-7 years when it counted, when he has been elite
     
  11. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good whoomp there it is
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    no doubt...hes a ****ing dummy...i just call it like i see it, favirite fighter or not...no way in hell i could justify the bull**** scams floyds pulled out the last 5 years while avoiding the best match ups that the public want to see as well as the HBO guys who pay him
     
  13. I1T2BOX

    I1T2BOX Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its funny how he win ALL his fantasy match-ups but has failed to actually fight a REAL contender throughout his whole career!!!Any prime elite 147-154 Boxer from the 80's to 2000's would show floyd Boxing is much much more than just a "business" and would give him tha business...so **** that chump and his predictions...its because of boxers like floyd that boxing is in the state it is!!!
     
  14. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I like Floyd but he is soooo overrated in fantasy matchups it's ridiculous. He doesn't have the record to show he'd beat past greats like Trinidad & Chavez easily and a shot Mosley almost had him outta there so Trinidad & Chavez in their primes couldn't finish him? A lesser fighter than them(Castillo) gave Floyd all he could handle in their first fight.
     
  15. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Corrales and Hernandez were good wins for example but it's his career from 140 above that gets rightfully criticized. I still think the Judah(ok win), Dlh, Mosley(he was shot but was good name) and Hatton wins were good but it wouldn't hurt to have a prime Cotto on his record.