If adamek beats wlad, does he surpass pacman's weight jumping exploits?

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    :huh What?
     
  2. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I disagree, man. Adamek is not a mediocre Heavyweight, he isn't a great Heavyweight...but mediocre is a little harsh. I can label a number of Heavyweights as mediocre, Adamek would beat these Heavyweights...he is arguably the 4th best Heavyweight around (all be it in a weak era, in my opinion).

    If Adamek beats Wlad, the result will be completely different to Wlad's losses to Brewster, Purrity and Sanders. Wlad has stepped up a level since then, he is a more rounded boxer...he hides and protects his 'flaws' better, and has an excellent jab to help that. Any type of win over Wlad now will be a great win. That's like saying, anyone who beats Pacquiao now, it will be down to Pacquiao exposing his own flaws with him having already been stopped twice in his career. Wlad has progressed from those losses to dominate the division for years, Pacquiao has moved on from those losses to become the #1 P4P boxer in the world. Previous losses, a long time ago, should have no bearing on these type of situations.

    I wouldn't say Wlad's losses were great victories for his opponents, or considered great victories by anyone else...but like I said, those losses should have no bearing on the Wlad of today. He is completely dominating the division with his brother, I can't remember the last time someone landed a significant punch on him. So of course any type of victory over him at this point would be a great win...added to the fact that no-one would expect Adamek to pull the victory off.

    Adamek hasn't shown me yet that he can even come close to beating Wlad or Vitali...but I'm sure he's learning all the time up at Heavyweight. He hasn't put in any great performances for me, but I just don't see how a win over Wlad at this point would not be considered a great win...
     
  3. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    thats because you're not a boxing fan.

    the only reason you watch the heavyweight division is because a white heavyweight dominates it.

    wait till you find out wlad klitschko is jewish and you'll be gone.
     
  4. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    yeah you're right

    pac fights are like major NFL events, sold out stadiums/arenas/casinos, PPV superstar, roaring fans travelling across the globe to watch and he gets 20 million dollar paydays.

    while adamek fights for pennies at the prudential center:rofl:rofl
     
  5. PFG

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    Not as great as Pac, because the divisions aren't as strong as they used to be, but it would be a big big feat. Almost ATG status, certain ATG if he'd continue with some successful defenses. (one against Vitali would suffice)

    I just can't see it happening. If you look at Adamek vs Cunningham, if Cunningham knew how to clinch, he'd have won that fight, because for large parts he was keeping Adamek at the end of his jab. Adamek mainly had him troubled up against the ropes. Now, when Wlad is up against the ropes, Wlad will clinch and there's no way Adamek will counteract that, not with Wlad outweighing him 30 pounds (and those being pounds of pure strength).
    Plus, Cunningham's jab... world class jab, but not a lot of power in it. Wlad's jab is a power jab. Adamek won't last for 12 rounds getting hit with that jab alone and that's ignoring Wlad's right hand/left hook.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'm not saying that a victory over wlad should make him number 1 p4p right now, but surely from a weight jumping aspect it surely makes him the best in that aspect. Especially when you consider that just like vs cunningham he'd be a big underdog thought of as too small to hurt his opponent and too limited to outbox his opponent.
     
  7. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
  8. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jack is just so full of hate that he cannot hide his bias when talking about either brother.
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    i think it would be pretty even.....wlad at one time was fighting at about a 60 pound weight difference when adamek was at light heavy...wlad is a huge guy....hard to say which would be more impressive...
     
  10. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, but it would be damned impressive.

    Adamek is kind of weird case because like Toney and to a lesser degree Hopkins, I think he had dieted himself down to an unnatural weight to fight at 175 (Toney and Hopkins did this at 160). He has looked right at home fighting at the 200 pound limit. Manny isn't a natural welterweight who was cutting off limbs to make 122, his best weight was probably 130 and he's still destroying guys at 147.

    We're just not going to see this again for a very, very long time.
     
  11. Relentless

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    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=10437&more=1[/url]
     
  12. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    4 years since the accusation by a single disgruntled terminated employee and still not a shred of evidence. Get over it, Haye boot licker. :hi:
     
  13. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    thats because adamek is scared to do the testing.
     
  14. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lol, has anyone asked?
     
  15. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The jump from light heavyweight to heavy has been done by many fighters, though. Especially when they have outgrown the division, which Adamek did. He only moved up because he couldn't make the limit any more.

    What Pacquiao has done, is completely unprecedented and it may never happen again.