British Title vs European Title.

So out o the FOURTEEN divisions only FOUR British champions would beat the European champion. Not really a strong case for saying the British title is superior is it?

I actually agree with you to an extent but think that there are only two (Brook and Bellew - I also think that DeGale should win but not clearly) British champions that would win clearly but SIX European champions that would.

How many European champions to you think you win clear.

 

This is what does it for me.

Fighters like Maludrottu are fringe world class, in tough divisions for Europeans to compete in on the world stage.

That is what I'd consider ''true European level'', not just facing a selection of opponents from the continent that are probably domestic level, or inferior.

The British title, apart from the weakest divisions, generally has some form of quality control over who gets their shot (unless Mismatch Maloney is involved), whereas the European has sold it's soul by allowing fights like Sprott vs Harrison for it's title.

Much like the Commonwealth with these shitty Afrobums, with the ''well, it may well be the next Azumah Nelson'' as justification.

 

You dont see many fighters going straight from a british title fight to a world title fight though do you?. The European title is necessary for British and European fighters in general to go up in the world rankings and step up in competition. Sure if a fighter has a european title belt he can hold onto it by fighting some very ordinary opponents, but if he really wants a challenge to prepare him for a world title shot, he can find one at european level. I'd say the Euro title has the higher range and quailty of fighters to choose from.

 

No actually you just owned yourself mate.

You consider this an attack on "British people" you ****ing ******. I am talking about the titles.

British fighters are the strongest in Europe in terms of the depth of the squad and the British title is probably one of the strongest national titles in the world but it that doesnt make it better than the European title.

Yes the British title deserves respect, and it gets it, but lets not blow smoke up its arse.

 

Chisora would beat Dimitrenko. He has no heart, can't take a punch. Once Derek gets inside its game over.

I also said 3 I would give a 50/50 chance. Not to mention the fact half these guys I'm matching them against in my mind are ****ing british anyway which reinforces my point and makes the excercise pointless. I mean why would McDonnell beating Hall mean anything for the Euro title? It means exactly what I say, we dominate that belt because 1. the best Europeans often bypass it completely and 2. half of them are **** anyway and 3. good fighters from Europe that ain't British are few and far between. Like I said, that are not that many Martinez's around that are actually more credible than domestic level opposition. Was there any difference between the Ukranian Murray fought and Gary Buckland, no. A lot of it is like that.

 

Get it into your head you stupid **** - its about the title, not about their nationality. You are so blinkered and biased that you are incapable of even keeping your thought process straight.

If EVER division of the European title was occupied by British fighters and they were the best in Europe that doesnt make the British title better.

So you counted out which British titlest would win clearly. Now list with European titlests would beat their British counterpart?

 

You really are pretty dense. What you are proving is that you are only capable of thinking about nationality on a bitter and twisted level because you are so used to licking the balls of Irish fighters on here. So you take me discussing British fighters in relation to the rest of them as some kind of nationalistic dig when its nothing but a boxing observation.

I'm talking on a simple boxing level here. I'm not trying to take the **** out of other nations. I'm talking reality. Our domestic level shits on all these countries. In depth and quality. Fact. The list proves it, you can cry all you like and claim I'm trying to be nationalistic but that list you posted backs up everything I say. It's not often the poster you're discussing with actually backs you up with evidence, cheers :good

 

Right, so I a, "bitter and twisted" against British fighters yet I posted this in my last post

"British fighters are the strongest in Europe in terms of the depth of the squad and the British title is probably one of the strongest national titles in the world but it that doesnt make it better than the European title."

Brilliant logic! absolutely astounding. No really let me get you a form for MENSA, they would make you president.

I never mentioned nationality until came up with the cracking statement that 'a number of the European champions were British so the British title is the best anyway'.

I tried to use logic - you use emotion.

I tried to compare and contrast the level of purses, effect on ranking, level of champion v champion.

You best comeback it that I am "licking the balls of Irish fighters"

No wonder the guys on BoxRec laugh at you clowns.

 

I think they are equal nowadays, but loving the nationalism discussion that is cropping up. I ****ing hate them................

Had you going there didn't I :good
Love and hate alike or some philosophic bs like that I say

 

Well, if it's that good **** off.

It's not as if you contribute to any debate here anyway.

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Really?

Do they call us nasty names as well?

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Stands to reason Slappy would love boxrec where rimming every fighter is the norm. I bet nobody even picks him up with how gay he is for Irish fighters.

You can tell the way this warped individuals mind thinks. Poster..mentions...countries...must...be....a....nationalistic....debate. No chance it could be about boxing. I feel sorry for him because he's spent so much time sucking off Casey/Lee etc and defending his actions that his mind works this way.

 

From the guy that on this thread alone gave us such gems as

"The European doesn't have any credibility any more." - despite it having better champions!

"There's constant vacating of titles, crap fighters being accepted for voluntary defences and so on." -

"Plus I don't recognise the EU, so it's the British hands down." UKIP Loyal! brilliant.

"For the life of me I fail to understand why someone would vacate the British to fight for it." - eh, because it brings more money and opportunities.

"Surely there's nothing bigger than being your national champion?" - no, not really. We've been through this.

"The European is the same, with EBU-EU and EBU-EE, whatever the hell they are." - eh, you know what they are, we've been through this as well havent we.

"Lots of fighters don't even bother with the European anymore, instead preferring the inter-alphabetty route." - plenty dont bother with the British either, your point?

"At least with national championships you know that everyone wants to win one as it's something they can remember for the rest of their days." Rule Brittania!!

"Much better than winning a vacant European vs some cherry picked clown - as both Barker and Macklin (to a lesser degree) have done." - funny that British champions keep vacating the British title to fight for the European title, doesnt happen the other way around, funny that.

This place would be ****ed without you

Done with this thread, I'll leave it to the slow learners.

 

before the swiss guy there was McDonnels mandatory Malik Bouzaine who is a quality fighter x world title holder.

last night john watson (coming of a loss) faced anthony crolla (super featherweight) for the vacant British title? whats your thoughts on that??

 

whats Chris Edwards record mate???