If adamek beats wlad, does he surpass pacman's weight jumping exploits?

You are wrong. 25 is the difference between LHW and CW. The difference between LHW and HW may be 70 pounds if he fight Wlad.

245-175=70

 

1. Create Klitschko related thread
2. Lure Jack
3. ???
4. Profit

 

That's true. Simply beating Wlad would mean more than the weight jumping achievement, I think. The titles at 175 and cruiser were impressive, yes, but when Adamek retires, if he beats Wlad, that will be his defining moment. The history books will say "He beat Wladimir Klitschko and, prior to that, won titles at light heavy and cruiser", rather than mention the titles he won and then who he beat at heavyweight.

It's a hugely significant fight for him. I like both guys, so I just hope for a fun fight. In all honesty though, I'd be happy if Adamek came through and was able to have a good career after the fight. He can pick up the WBA title after Haye retires.

 

To be fair, when Pacquiao is fighting Margarito, Clottey etc., he is giving up 15-25lbs easily. It's not as much weight, no, but it makes more difference in the lower weights. 20lbs in the welter/junior middleweight division, is a bigger obstacle than 30 pounds in the heavyweight division.

And, if you're talking about the weight the first won a title at, Pacquiao's jump from 112 to 154lbs is unheard of. Plenty of light heavyweights have moved up to heavyweight.

 

all this talk is pointless.

adamek will be knocked out cold and made even uglier than he already is.

 

175 + 25 = 200. 200+ is the limit for the heavyweight division. Anything under 200, is the limit for cruiserweight.

And you have to consider that Adamek was never a true 175lber. He didn't fight at that weight once and, for most of his light heayweight fights, he would have weighed in at over 190lbs.

His true weight is probably cruiser. I still think 190-odd pounds against Klitschko is a huge obstacle though.

 

Pac is fighting at catchweight. The last guy he beat in a "normal" fight was Ricky Hatton. Cotto, Margarito, Clottey were drained and werent even no1 in the division.

That true. I dont believe that Haye will ever fight Adamek, so he needs to wait until Haye retires.

 

Clottey was not drained. Nor was Cotto.

 

i dont think he knows what drained means

margarito rehydrated to 165lb on fight night, thats not drained.

 

I missed Margarito. atsch Margarito looked as big as I had ever seen him in the ring against Pacquiao...looked in great shape aswell.

 

Ok, but they were weakened by losing more weight than they used to, especially Cotto.

 

Cotto v Clottey...146lbs.
Cotto v Pacquiao...145lbs.

1 pound can make a difference if you are struggling to make weight, Cotto didn't seem to have that problem, and I have never heard him say anything about making weight. He looked strong on fight night, just got outclassed.

Clottey v Cotto...147lbs.
Clottey v Pacquiao...147lbs.

He looked dehydrated at weigh-in, but re-hydrated well before the bout...he looked comfortable on fight night. Just didn't turn up/Pacquiao wouldn't let him.

 

That a strong point in favor of PAC. If PAC started at 122-130 lb then
fighting non drained Margarito would be comparable to Adamek fighting -Wlad.
Hoverer, the whole catchweigth demands are lowering this.

The proper comparison for Adamek would be when Jones moved
to HW and he would demand a catchweigth of 200 lb from Ruiz.
Since he did not then Jones Jr is more comparable to PAC than Adamek.
I wouldn't mention Toney, just because he was heavier that Ruiz himself

 

I realized that Clottey fight wasnt at catchweight

But if you say that losing more weight didnt hurt Cotto, so why fighting at catchweight? Couldnt the fight been made at 147 pounds?

 

Adamek beating wlad would shock me.

Pac - DLH shocked me though hindsight is 20/20. none of pacs fights since then shocked me, the only one that wasnt expected is clottey deciding to do **** all because he had a very good style to give pac a hard fight