Pacquiao versus Hatton, Cherry-pick or Not?

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    When he fought Hatton, he fought

    - The Lineal Champion
    - The 140lber with the best resume
    - The 140lber with the best abiliity at that point in time (people like to forget Hatton was coming off giving Malignaggi one of the most one sided beatdowns of his career)
    - The biggest name at 140

    All rolled into one.

    Its not hard to see that Hatton was the logical, and best, choice for Pac at 140. I gotta laugh about the people calling this a cherry pick... :lol: Exactly who was there that Pac should have fought BEFORE Hatton. BEFORE the lineal champ, BEFORE the guy who had never lost at 140, people saying he should have fought any other 140lber at the time are living in fantasy land and arent remember that, whether Hatton was on the slide or not, that is besides the point, the point is, there was only one fighter in the world to face at 140 if you wanted to beat the man at that weight, and that was Ricky Hatton. Not to mention when the fight was even mentioned for the first time, most thought Ricky would be too much for Pac. But afterwards, fighting the number one guy in the division, its champion, and someone whos never lost at the weight and one of its top and best fighters, period, is cherry picking. lol.

    Nothing but props for Pac vs Hatton.
     
    kirk, Feb 2, 2011
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  2. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    This fight was not a cherry pick. Hatton was the lineal light welterweight champ. Ever since I saw his fight with Kostya Tszyu I have thought of Hatton as nothing more than a wrestling brawler with decent footwork. A prime Hatton was never good enough to be at the elite level. Mayweather's fight with him proved that. Pacquiao was the final nail to his coffin.

    But some of you need to grow the hell up. You come on this thread and defend Pacquiao for fighting Hatton. But then you go on another and call Floyd a cherry picker for fighting Judah and Baldomir. Judah was the lineal welterweight champ before Badomir beat him. Floyd then beat the man, and then he beat the man who beat the man. That sounds like two logical match ups to me. Double standards are killing this sport.
     
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  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Getting recently KTFO doesn't count for anything. :roll:
     
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  4. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hatton was the man @140. So no, of course not.
     
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  5. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    mosley can ko pac...body shot ko...IF mosley can connect actually...


    i think mosley can offer a much better fight than margarito did...just because of speed difference....
     
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  6. kirk

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    And? This is boxing, **** happens.

    Fact is, he was KTFO in a weightclass he shouldnt have been fighting at, against an ATG. Hatton was not prime, and for the record, he sure as hell wasnt prime for Mayweather eather.

    That, changes nothing of what I wrote, and being beat by Mayweather, and in his complete peak or not, doesnt change the fact that he was the man to beat at 140, period. You dont 'cherry pick' a fight when its THE GUY your supposed to fight when your new to that division.

    If Pac would have fought anyone else at 140, it would have been a joke, as Hatton was the man at 140, and the one to beat, regardless of the mayweather fight.

    Cherry Picking would be when you have one or two other fighters that CLEARLY stand out in the division and you choose the weaker and safer fight and proceed to still dodge said fighters.
     
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  7. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can't call it cherrypicking if he was linear champ like most are saying here. Just like you can't call Floyd fighting Mosley a cherrypick when he was linear champ. Good timing for both I guess.. Only thing is 1 tried to make the matchup years earlier....
     
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  8. ekar

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    After Pacqauio beat Morales. People would say Don't make me laugh by putting manny in the same word as guys like Cotto, Margarito, Delahoya, let alone Hatton. If he beat two of those guys, he's somethng special.

    After he beat Diaz, people say he got a good shot at hatton. But He's still too big. Just because he beat diaz dosn't mean he can bet any of the 135 pound guys let alone guys at 140. Delahoya is a joke fight, just to cash out and will move back down to 135.

    After he beat Hoya. People say. Hoya was drain. Hatton will be different. He never lost at 140. He won't go down without a fight.

    Around Cotto people started being scared and just nit pick at what pacquaio accomplish. Forgetting the fact that he came from 126 let alone 115 pounds. Now their looking at middle weights. Pacquaio is cherry picking if he dont fight martinez or williams.

    Now that Williams just got KTFO. Ohh crap pacquaio might knock him out too. so change that Pacqauio is cherry picking if he figh williams. So he needs to fight Martinez or maybe Abraham at 160 or move up to super middle to get my respect.
     
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  9. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Timmy, is that a girl's name?:huh
     
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  10. puga_ni_nana

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    actually i could have saved you from more embarrassment so people would not know that those 17% who voted yes have names similar to you, bald_head and anything with "floyd", "pbf" or "money" in their forum names.

    i actually said that i ****ed-up in the first page so be content that more people are aware of you here in ESB.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Feb 3, 2011
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  11. puga_ni_nana

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    no one is calling floyd fighting mosley a cherry-pick. you are confusing it with marquez.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Feb 3, 2011
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  12. jonnytightlips

    jonnytightlips Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How the **** did he cherry pick Hatton. He was the best at 140 at the time and Pac was moving up in weight. Some people were giving Hatton a real chance of beating him.
     
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  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I agree, mosley has a chance from rounds 1-4 in my eyes after that his chances will decrease with every round.
    But even in round 1-4 pac is better, so thats hoping for a hail mary punch or a cut or something. I think it will be even for 4 rounds mosley landing some good shots but also getting punished. then he will slow down and get beaten up around the ring leading to a mid round stoppage.
     
    cesare-borgia, Feb 3, 2011
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  14. puga_ni_nana

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    well pac was actually moving down from 147 since he first fought oscar. but the thing is, team pac never planned on staying at welter that time and thinks 135 or 140 is their weight. it's just that after hatton, the big money fight was at welter so pac decided to move-up even if he is out-sized at these weights.
     
    puga_ni_nana, Feb 15, 2011
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  15. Chappy112

    Chappy112 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think it was a cherry pick and voted no but it doesn't make him an idiot or troll.

    I can see why he would think it looking back.
     
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