Do you honestly believe that Pacquiao is on PEDs ?

damn that made too much sense :yep I still think he's clean though, but he's not helping himself provve it

 

I wouldn't be shocked if he was but no.

Same goes for Mayweather.

 

this ****ers think PEDs can do miracles lol. from the discussions in ESb, i haver a list of things that Peds can do

1. it can make a one-dimensional fighter use angles and an elite footwork with great ring generalship

2. it can make a one-handed fighter use both hands, give him an arsenal of punches and a thundering right hook (applicable to southpaw Peds users)

3. PEDs improve defense and can turn a forward-face-first slugger into a slick mofo

4. Peds give you a steel-chin, the user won't even feel pain as long as he is under the drug

5. Peds turns you glass body into steel.

6. PEDS give you additional muscle volume with no side effects because you still maintain your old stamina (forget the fact that your weight has been the same since four years ago, don't let facts get in the way of a cool story.):hat

7. PEDS can make you into an ATG fighter. if you're a bum, all you need is to take PEDs and watch your name soar into the pages of history:good

8. You can use PEDs without any diminished effect even if you undergo a strict blood testing up to seven days before the fight, an unlimited urine testing up to the day of the fight and a blood and urine test five minutes after the fight, its practically ****en undetectable. :happy:happy


9. If you think a fighter will knock you out, you can use PED use as an alibi not to fight him. PEDs benefits even none-users (Xylocaine isn't PEDs even if it gives you fists of steel lol):hey

PEDs is great. Maybe PEDs is also the cure for AIDS and cancer, or maybe PEDS can bring peace in the middle east too. **** it, everyone should be educated about the wonders of PEDs thumbsup

 

You act like PEDs dont benefit a fighter. Jesus christ.

I guess they are called Performance Enhancing Drugs because they don't help at all.


And Xylocaine gives you fist of steel now? Jesus stop being a ****ing baby and grow up.

 

i just gave you a list, i'm a PEDs believer :thumbsup

 

You're a troll and a moron.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl You lost all credibility. STFU and go home

 

i just enumerated all the things that are said in ESB about the benefits of PED

adds weight while improving stamina, adds power and boxing skills, undetectable under the strictest testing regimen, gives you a chin of steel etcetera etcetera. What the **** is your problem . If you think i'm a troll, then everyone in ESB is a troll, (especially a group of fans who had been preaching the same things about effects of PEDs, i just listed them here)

 

Would of never saw that myself. Good catch.

 

Lance I feel you argue just for the hell of it. You'll argue something with somebody on something you both agree to or you already admitted was wrong or something.

You said you know BALCO wasn't the only one giving out drugs, but then you ask him to name more?
Why does that matter? If we knew them, they'd be shut down now also.

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence

 

No he is not until proven guilty.

PAC had his hands full in the lower weights because BARRERA, MARQUEZ and MORALES is > COTTO, ODLH, MARGO AND RICKY!

 

yes they are better, but what's weird is that those guys were hurting him and knocking him around
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5cY-vywUWM[/ame]
These lightweights are hurting him, but how come a Cotto can't

 

at least you are able to admit your mistake. it's all good :good

 

that was a weight drained Pacquiao who goes to sauna to make 130 lbs and obviously wasn't near as technically good as he is today

 

I made this post yesterday and I'm still wondering why it is. Now also realize, I believe pac is clean, but the weight draining thing isn't a good enough excuse for me
Here it is [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8928739&postcount=111[/url]

This draining stuff doesn't make 100 percent sense.
1. If Manny has been drained his whole career before 2007, why didn't he just move up in weight? He started camp at his natural weight, didn't he feel a difference in his performance in the start of camp compared to the end when he was "drained"

I can accept the drained excuse for one or two fights, but after a while, you have to ask, "Why didn't this guy move up in weight earlier?"

2. How come Manny is the only fighter that has gotten better as he's moved up significantly in weight. I know Ariza and Roach are good reasons for that, but lets be real guys.
Why didn't Duran get better moving up in weight?
Why didn't Marquez get better moving up in weight?
Why didn't Hatton?
All these fighters didn't have to drain themselves as much, but got worse as the moved up