Amir Khan Vs Paul McCloskey Build-Up Thread!

BUMPY KNUCKLES · Feb 18, 2011

willmc83 said: ↑

yeah, we've got 3 £75 ticks, cheap ryanair flights and cheap digs in the holiday inn express, mothers lock up your daughters...
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where did u get your tickets from ? do you know where your seated ?

Uncle Rico · Feb 18, 2011

gooners!! said: ↑

I believe Khan cant fight from mid range because he's not adept enough at the skill. His lack of headmovement is one factor, but his lack experience fighting from that distance is the main reason. Fighting in the pocket is the hardest skill to learn in Boxing, simply because its hard to stand infront of someone, make them miss, make them pay, and not get hit yourself, you have to be able to manipulate angles well, which means you need good upperbodymovement to create those angles, so you dont get hit, and so you can create those angles to punch off.

Amir Khan is far too rigid, naive, inexperienced at that particular skill, to ever be effective from that distance imo, which is probably a result of him relying so heavily on his greatest strength, his athleticism, only that might be harder to do at this level, cause other guys like Bradley can fight from all 3 distances, his one saving grace, might be that whilst Bradley has all the skill, ability to manipulate distance better than him, that he's not that big of a puncher.

People talk about Khan beating Bradley from long range, and whilst he has the speed get off first on him, his reach is only 2 inches longer than Bradley's.
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Agreed. It remains to be seen what he'll be like once his athleticism begins fading.

Big J · Feb 18, 2011

willmc83 said: ↑

yeah, we've got 3 £75 ticks, cheap ryanair flights and cheap digs in the holiday inn express, mothers lock up your daughters...
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Are you Block 108, lower tier as well then?

Uncle Rico · Feb 18, 2011

willmc83 said: ↑

you could be right, depends on what Khan's game plan is. I think McCloskey will get stronger the longer the fight goes on but then again my opinion is based on Khan being aggressive early.

I think Khan is going to be very aggressive from quite early in the fight, if he doesn't stop McCloskey in the first few rounds then I think he's going to revert back to moving in and out and throwing very fast combinations and getting out of harms way. Hopefully McCloskey can get inside and start to dictate things and land a few on Khan's chin. McCloskey will have to keep his hands right up around his temple for the first few rounds - I think that this is when Khan will be at his most dangerous.

I think Khan would be better off staying on the outside in the early rounds and forcing McCloskey to come forward, if that happens I could see him picking McCloskey off and clocking up rounds, McCloskey might then be forced to look for a knockout and I could see Khan stopping him in his desperation.

Laz - on the McCloskey camp, I heard he was sparring with Michael 'lights out' Kelly, you might remember him from fighting Frankie Gavin on the magnificient 7 bill, I can't verify this I just heard it third hand
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Yes, my prediction was based on Khan taking a more steady approach. That could all change if Khan, like you suggest, is aggressive from the opening bell. I'd prefer it if he doesn't do this, because McCloskey, being a typical Irish fighter, won't lay down for nobody that quickly.

Lazarus · Feb 19, 2011

Ariza Talks Amir Khan

Ariza 's name had also been in the spotlight recently as news spread like wildfire that he had also went his separate ways with WBA junior welterweight champion Amir Khan. While that fallout is a story all its own, Ariza was quick to refute the claims that he and Chavez Jr. had parted ways.

"To be honest with you, I heard first thing that he was going to be arriving Thursday morning," Ariza said recently. "Stuff that we had talked about after the [Lyell] fight, kind of the way that I pushed him during those three weeks, that it would be kind of a shame if I didn't give him at least a two-week break and then resume and stay in some sort of form until we got the details of the Zbik fight.

"Then it turned into something else. Apparently something was written, I didn't read it, that I was fired from running his camp. I can't even really give a statement on it because I don't know. Everybody knows my phone number. If you want to know, just call me. I keep in touch with my fighters, especially in the offseason."

Ariza's split with Khan was shocking, as the Colombian native appeared to be doing a great job with the British star. Khan is coming off of a wild December decision win over Marcos Maidana, a fight in which his great conditioning allowed him to weather a late storm from the Argentinean, and one would have thought that he and Ariza would remain close for several years.

Asked if he was surprised at how things played out, Ariza hinted that he knew something troubling was brewing within Khan's inner circle prior to their separation.

"For me, I knew back in December when they had supposedly called Freddie and his attorney Nick," Ariza said of Shah Khan, the pupil's father, and a few select individuals. "They were upset that I had signed Amir to an exclusive contract with myself as a conditioning coach. Once I knew that they were upset about it and not just the signing, but they were lying and saying how I had Amir sign it two hours before the fight - Once you know that's the direction that they are going in, that's what's going to happen. It didn't really take me by surprise. What takes me by surprise is the lack of professionalism that they did it in.

"Between five guys they couldn't come up with a pair of balls to call me on the phone?"

The lack of professionalism Ariza is referring to is based on his claims that either a sole individual or members from Khan's camp had broken into his hotel room on the night of the Maidana fight and stolen his contract with Amir. I had heard of reports that Ariza later mentioned that he felt it was Amir himself who spearheaded the break in.

Asked whether he really felt the 24-year old was guilty or not, Ariza could only offer up a few hints.

"Again, I think people are hearing things out of context," he continued. "Somebody mentioned it to me that Amir had one of the firends taking it out of my room. His receptionist and her assistant. They knew the lawyer wasn't going to take it, they knew the manager's not going to go in there and take it. Who would send somebody in there? The contract was done in a private setting between me and Amir. The only people who knew he signed the contract was Amir. Why would anybody go in there looking for anything?"

Khan will still be working with head trainer Freddie Roach and has landed at the Wild Card to begin training for his April 16th date with Irishman Paul McCloskey. If successful, Amir could be in line for a July date against IBF and WBO champion Timothy Bradley.

But would it be awkward for Ariza if he ever crossed paths with Amir inside of the Wild Card or anywhere else for that matter?

"It's not whether I see him one way or the other," stated Ariza. "I'm going to focus on my two guys, which is Chavez and Manny. I don't' wish any ill will towards the kid. Unfortunately that is just not what I am accustomed to. I feel more for Freddie, who has been thrown in the middle of it, for [them] trying to put the bill on Freddie, and saying that it's his choice. I mean, man up and take responsibility for what you are saying and doing in the media. Don't put it on Freddie. People always associate me and Freddie. To me, that's the hard part. It affects him more than it really does me."
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spud1 · Feb 19, 2011

willmc83 said: ↑

yeah, we've got 3 £75 ticks, cheap ryanair flights and cheap digs in the holiday inn express, mothers lock up your daughters...
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should we be expecting some kind of pillage.

:think

EnglishWay · Feb 19, 2011

i went on ticketmaster earlier and there was no £40 tickets , they all gone??

Lazarus · Feb 19, 2011

EnglishWay said: ↑

i went on ticketmaster earlier and there was no £40 tickets , they all gone??
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They were gone in the first 2 hours. I tried to get hold of some myself.

EnglishWay · Feb 19, 2011

maybe there doing the period thing and more £40 tickets go on sale at a later date...

EnglishWay · Feb 19, 2011

and the £50 odd pound one (the next cheapest) is sitting with 40 pound tickets so **** that.

TonyD407 · Feb 19, 2011

paul has a punchers chance thats all

ah.sure · Feb 19, 2011

Khan: "I have to look a little bit ahead and I am one of the guys who wants to fight Bradley.
"McCloskey is standing in front of me now and I have to beat him to get to Bradley. McCloskey is the opponent that completes my light-welterweight education so I'm ready for Bradley."

What a ****

PUNCHDRUNK · Feb 19, 2011

No, you're a ****. Khan is paying McCloskey a compliment. He's elevating
him into the same category as Maidana, Malinaggi, Kotelnik as credible opponents to gain the necessary experience to face the no.1 in the 140 lb
division. Given the calibre of opponent that McCloskey has faced
till now, Khan is being generous....

Lazarus · Feb 19, 2011

ah said: ↑

Khan: "I have to look a little bit ahead and I am one of the guys who wants to fight Bradley.
"McCloskey is standing in front of me now and I have to beat him to get to Bradley. McCloskey is the opponent that completes my light-welterweight education so I'm ready for Bradley."

What a ****
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What the **** are you on about?

These are the times I wish Khan had said **** off to McCloskey. You Irish fans should AT LEAST be greatful that McCloskey was given the opportunity to fight for a World title. And don't give me the **** about how he's earned it.

Uncle Rico · Feb 19, 2011

ah said: ↑

Khan: "I have to look a little bit ahead and I am one of the guys who wants to fight Bradley.
"McCloskey is standing in front of me now and I have to beat him to get to Bradley. McCloskey is the opponent that completes my light-welterweight education so I'm ready for Bradley."

What a ****
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atsch

Why is he a ****?

He's speaking the truth here. He knows Bradley is the man to beat at LWW, and he feels that in order to be ready for him, he has to beat McCloskey.

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