If Haye fights and defeats both Klitschkos will be considered an ATG?

If he beats both Klitchos then he can knock into the door of top 20 ...
you have to remember that Vitaly ain't prime anymore so beating Wlad
counts much more at this time ...

So far Haye with the wins over Valuev and Ruiz is bouncing somewhere
near top 100 HW.

 

Considering the majority of Klitschko fans think that Haye is a garbage fighter, I don't see how this is possible.

Honestly, I don't think so.

Wlad has been knocked down 13 times against bums, and in the Sanders fight went down the second time without even getting hit. He looked scared out of his mind. In the Brewster fighter, once he realized his opponent could take his punches, he looked terrified again and was all over the ring. He didn't even take a brutal beating in either fight, he just gave up. Then in the Purity fight, Purity feinted, and Klitschko went down.

You got a terrified fighter that's not trying to fight anyone. I mean, Golden Boy said he would make 40 MILLION dollars if he fought Haye, and he instead decided to fight Chisora. He obviously has no heart.

And Vitali, he's a great fighter, but he got the ass whuppin of a life time vs a past it Lewis, and he quit at the first sign of adversity against Byrd.

If you look at other ATG's they fought threw that type of ****. Marciano fought with blood streaming out of his eyes to knock Walcott out in championship rounds, a come from behind victory against a masterful boxer.

Ali fought with a broken jaw against Norton. I mean, the list goes on. These guys got up. They didn't fall to their knees in terror when they didn't even get hit. They took their ass whuppins like men.

And then you got look at the level of competition. Who the hell have the Klitschko's fought?

So, no, I don't think Haye would be an ATG.

 

if pigs fly ,will they be consider a bird?(first they need to have a wings,second he(haye) has has to grow a set of balls and step in the ring:blood

 

The fact is, Wlad made it clear he doesn't want this **** by his actions.

Golden Boy said this fight would generate 40 MILLION DOLLARS.

This is BY FAR, the biggest payday of Wlad's career. There is no comparison. Not only that, but Wlad would HBO exposure once again and possibly be able to revitalize his career.

He chose to fought Chisora, jeopardizing this fight, and has since made plans to fight Adamek.

My theory is that because Wlad and Vitali are ****in eachother, they share the same bank account, so Wlad can avoid Haye and just let Vitali fight him.

 

If I bang a princess will it make me royalty? :huh

 

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Wlad: "I don't want 40 million dollars. I will fight Chisora."

 

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I was under the impression from certain thread starters that there's no reason to believe either Klitschko would even be competitive with an ATG, so Haye could beat the **** out of both of them and it wouldn't really prove anything, right? Also, from certain other posters, I'm led to believe that Haye gases with ease, has **** defense, doesn't have a true heavyweight knockout punch, is untested and has a **** chin, so if either brother fights and defeats him, that will also be meaningless and won't make them ATGs either. In short, all fighters are ****. Let's watch ballet instead.

 

Do you get tired of being a ****in idiot?

You say some of the dumbest ****.

You said Sam Peter was better than Tyson. You based it on your assertion that he was bigger and stronger.

Why don't you do this.

Post a video of YOU boxing. I would like to see this **** because it's OBVIOUS that you don't know **** about it.

Apparently, you think everything is predicated around size. Any fool can tell you that Peter has horrible skills.

Chambers is terrible as well. I mean, you claimed Chambers was a great, slick boxer, yet he stood straight up and down, squared up, hands held high, just lunging in with one punch at a time, with absolutely no lateral movement in front of arguably the hardest heavyweight puncher in the sport, who also had a considerable reach advantage.

Do you honestly think you're watching Jersey Joe Walcott when you watch Chambers?

Actually, check that question, because it's doubtful you've ever had the patience to observe him.

Why do you even post? Aren't you someone that agrees that Povetkin is finished, yet you made some ridiculous thread about how this isn't a bad era?

Why is that Soviets couldn't win one damn Gold medal from 1904 to 1996 if they are such great athletes, yet today, when boxing, especially heavyweight boxing is at a low point in the US, it's filled with Eastern Europeans.

And guys like Chagaev, who compared to Tyson looks slow, dumb, and weak, (watch the film), could barely get past Ruiz, and Ibriganov looked unimpressive against an ANCIENT Holyfield, yet these are the top guys on Wlad's pitiful resume.

Please put up a video of you boxing and showing technique because it's obvious you don't know ****. Refrain from speaking.

 

I doubt it..

First of all, Vitali Klitschko is not an all time great, and likely never will be.. Wlad has a chance to be remembered as a top 20 heavyweight, but that hasn't been decided yet... Furthermore, at 35 and 39 years old, they are both past their best, and beating two aging opponents is not enough in and of itself to warrant being an ATG. In order for anyone to acheive greatness in an era lacking in true talent, he must unify the belts and reign for a substantially long period, building an exceptional record, to compensate for not having any rivalries of extraordinary value, the way that Marciano had Walcott, Ali had Frazier, Holyfield had bowe, etc...etc...