Wladimir vs Mike Tyson Prime-4-Prime

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  1. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In Tysons prime he would have wlad out in 3
     
  2. Predator

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    Wlad would be very very lucky to last a round.
     
  3. Predator

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    ^^ Buster Douglas had a Chin, an upper cut and didn't have panic attacks.
     
  4. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Yes - I'm a nob head because I don't think that Tyson would simply have a punchers chance against a fighter who has been put down but far lesser fighters than him.

    You honestly one of the worst posters on this forum
     
  5. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson in his prime wouldn't have been on the outside. He never was an outside fighter. He was too short in stature and reach. He was always mid - close range. Prime Tyson - solid chin, lightening fast hands, big punches in combos. Vitali would have more of a chance but I just see Wlad folding inside 4 rounds.
     
  6. IlPadrino

    IlPadrino Active Member Full Member

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    I swear some Klit fans have never seen a Tyson fight.

    They bring up fighters like Mitch Green who Tyson fought 6th or 7th out of THIRTEEN fights in 1986 and had fought a 10 rounder less than 2 weeks before, or they think that the Tyson that fought Lewis was anywhere near 50% of the fighter that terrorized the division around 1988-90. Even the shell of Mike Tyson took some bombs against great fighters before losing and not without landing any of his own. Someone mentioned on another thread a while ago about Green and Tillis lasting 10 rounds with Tyson, neglecting to mention that he fought them both less than two weeks apart and he was still fairly green.

    The simplest way I can explain this fight is that 'prime' Wlad depends on grinding down B level opponents until they are ready to fold. Tyson wouldn't give him that chance and Tyson WOULD land some bombs on Wlad's chin and Wlads **** would go out the window, as it always does when he gets tagged. All the Manny Steward masterplans in the world don't improve a fighters chin nor his ability to avoid panic when he knows he's about to get his **** pushed in. Wlad only looks so dominant today because no-one he faces has the tools Tyson, Lewis, etc had, and if they did, they would be no doubt be maneouvred into fighting Vitali first.
     
  7. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A total massacre, wlad will be exposed even worse than against Sanders.
    Tyson brutal tko in the first round.
    If Vitali tries to play tough and challenge Tyson in the ring after the fight, he gets blasted as well....
     
  8. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    To put it more simply . . . STYLES make fights.

    Wlad's style is to paw with the jab and keep his opponent at bay, throwing maybe one or two right hands in a round when he is confident he is out of their range. He has no inside game to speak of, so when attacked he retreats in a straight line or tries to smother his opponents and clinch.

    Tyson's style is to come forward while bobbing and weaving so as not to provide a stationary target for the jab. He wants to plant his head on your chest and crack you with hooks and uppercuts.

    How is a pawing left hand going to keep a come forward fighter with great head movement from getting on the inside?

    How is a fighter with a reluctance to throw a right hand unless he's certain it's going to land going to deter a fighter from coming forward.

    How is a fighter who goes back in straight lines going to be able to escape from a fighter with faster footwork?

    How is a fighter with no real inside game going to stop one of the most devastating inside fighters the heavyweight division has seen?

    How is a fighter with a chin like Wlad's going to stay up when Tyson does land?

    Basically, in order to win this fight Wlad has to actually change his style and fight a different fight.

    He can't just leave his left pawing out there or else one bob and step and Tyson is on the inside. He has to pump the jab home hard and often just to give Tyson something to think about.

    He can't get away with throwing the right hand so infrequently or else Tyson has nothing to fear or think about apart from slipping the jab.

    Wlad has to be able to work on the inside when Tyson gets there, because he hasn't got the foot speed over Tyson that would usually earn him his distance back. He needs to be able to meet Tyson with uppercuts as he's coming inside - what use is a jab and straight rights when someone has their head on your chest?

    You're talking about asking Wlad to fight completely outside of his comfort zone, just in order keep Tyson at bay. You're just asking Tyson to go in there and fight his usual fight. This is a no brainer for me
     
  9. Laudrup

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    Thank you.

    Tyson KO.

    And all of you - please remember we are talking about a prime Tyson.
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Anybody here who thinks Wlad would win would never ever place money on this bout if it somehow could really take place. I guarantee you that.
     
  11. REEVO

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    You would see Wladamir adapting do you know why? Because you love him..... It makes me sick your biased post's all time?

    This is how it is...... If they fought each other 10 times in there primes. Wlad would get beaten 9 times and im giving Wlad 1 win because he might get lucky with a punch... Wlad would fill his pants as soon as the bell went and get KO. If you cant see that then your just ****ing mad were talking about Wlad yeah.. :tired
     
  12. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Number of times this poll has been done before?? over/under 50...
     
  13. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :dealYeah that's spot on. Wlad is a good fighter but a prime 21year old Tyson would be his worst nightmare and the panic on his face would be painful to watch. I don't see him going past 2 and that would be the same outcome if they fought 10 times. Wladimir's tools has a fighter would'nt come into play because he would never see past the second, i honestly believe that. Has good a fighter has Wlad is, you just can't put out of your mind how poorly he handles pressure, and a peak Tyson brings has much pressure has his ever gonna see. People like Lewis and Holyfield would have fared better against a prime Tyson because they were born fighters and have the ability to stay calm, Wlad isn't a born fighter and he cannot stay calm amidst that fire. That is my opinion.
     
  14. p4pBute

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    Wlad late KO, just can't see wlad doing anything but keeping distance an jabbing the **** out tyson, then coming threw big right crosses an lefts hooks as the fight progresses, i see this fighting going no more the 10, i see tyson with a better chance of beating wlad late then early, maybe when wlad gets carless an is going in for the kill, an then tyson catches him
     
  15. Chrystophilax

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    Styles make fights is exactly right. Boxers like Wlad do not do well against swarmers like Tyson. It's like the Ali-Fraizer fight, exceptin this case the Ali-man does not have a rock-hard chin, and Joe Fraizer-like-person has a devestating right-uppercut instead of a left-hook.

    Quick KO for Tyson.

    That's not to say that Wlad is a bad boxer, but styles make fights, and he would get slaughtered against this paticular opponent.