Was Wladimir drugged vs Brewster?

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  1. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    That's basically my take on the situation.

    Lamon Brewster himself said that Wlad was breathing very hard in the 2nd round. He could tell in the clinches...................something to that effect.

    Irregular blood sugar amounts can cause a person to faint or blackout. In the very worst cases a person can slip into a coma.

    After the fight Wlad had no signs of a concussion, but he was turning blue. Lack of oxygen maybe?
     
  2. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good

    And Manny knows the stuff how to train fighters for big fights.

    It is all bul**** with panic attacs and so on. Wlad fights the rematch against Brewster and what happened? Brewster was outclassed like before. In the first fight Wlad dropped Brewster in the 4th. Why should he have paniced? When he dropped Brewster Wlad was total gassed, why? After only 4rounds?

    Never. Wlad was drugged!

    Because they want Wlad to split with Emanuel Steward!

    And thank“s and props to Steward that he stood and stand behind Wladimir. :happy:happy:happy
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think this is true.

    In sports where you can bet at the arena/track/stadium etc., you see the odds change like that all the time. It's common in Vegas because of the number of places you can bet there, but in other sports, you see it regularly. Watch any horse racing meeting and you'll see a few horses which shift more than 11/1 to 7/2 in a day.

    It doesn't seem to occur as often in team sports, which makes sense because the chances of an upset are lower.

    In Vegas though, with a lot of impulsive gamblers, I don't see anything suspicious about the odds falling like that.
     
  4. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can not compare horse racing with boxing.

    11:1 change to 3,5:1 in the last hours. This says enough.
     
  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's all gambling.
     
  6. Marciano

    Marciano AmicoDiNessuno Full Member

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    Clearly NO Brewster landet in Round 5 Two Hard Left Hook, Look at 30 Sec This Hook was Powerfull From Brewster and Than in The Ring Ropes Brewster Ladet another Powerfull Left and Right Hook and Klichko after this hard Punches was Clearly Done No Doubt.
    Fact is Brewster was a Very Hard Puncher he could Knockout everybody.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM4ojVfnwuU[/ame]
     
  7. garfios

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    ooh, that body shot at the end of the round was nasty, K's delusional fans don't care about facts, they just pull $hit out of their arse and go with it, true fans take good (which is more) and forhet about the bad.
     
  8. Punisher33

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    I watched the fight several times, and it's clear to see Wlad gassed out. The reason? My guess is that when a 6'6 250 pound man throws power punch after punch, its bound to take it toll. Couple that with the fact Wlad had a mini panic attack in round 3, when Brewster landed a straight left. While also landing vicious body shots early on in the fight, I believe Roy Jones even makes a comment on how hard Brewtser is digging to the body.

    Wlad had so many excuses for why he lost that night, from being drugged, vaseline on his legs, or low sugar. None of which held any water, which is why Wlad eventually gave Brewster an apology months later. He knew he was wrong to make all those excuses for losing, and at the end of night Brewster's toughness and chin is what won him the fight. Something Wlad has been shown to have little of throughout his career.
     
  9. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad never said he was drugged, Wlad said, he wants to know what happens becaude of the high blood sugar level to continue the boxng career.

    Wlad was tired in round 2 and completly tired in round 4 long before Brewster could land punches.

    Against Ray Mercer Wlad throws more punches than against Brewster.

    A good trained boxer like Wlad does not gas in 2 rounds or in 5!

    You have to be a diabetic with this sugar level but Wlad is healthy. I have no doubt that he was drugged.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    the thing about boxing odds moving so quickly is that a smart gambler who has contacts can place bets at numerous bookies before they have time to adjust to each other and come out making a significant profit regardless of the outcome. The casino runs a major risk when it shifts the odds that quickly and they will only do it if something is up

    Imagine if one Casino is still paying 11/1, but the other had shifted to 7/2. It's crazy. I can make 4-5% on my money with zero risk of losing it regardless of the outcome.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    oh man, that doesn't look like someone who is hurt from punches, it looks like someone who is ill.

    anyways, I think he was drugged. I'm not even a Wlad fan. Or maybe he was not drugged but he was ill. Either way he's not at his best, not even close to it.
     
  12. Punisher33

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    Wlad had 3 excuses after the fight, not even one proved to be true. That's why at the end of the day, he gave an apology to Brewster. This was Wlad's first fight with Steward, so he was still making the transition to a new jab and grab fighting style.

    Watch the fight closely, Wlad gets hit with plenty of body punches early. Like I said, Jones even pointed it out to the viewers. Also, Wlad was hurt in the 3rd round by a stiff straight left that buckled his knees. Which forced him to clinch and panic a little, which does drain one's stamina. Add that with the fact that Wlad threw plenty of power punches, and for a man his size could mean trouble.

    We have seen Wlad have stamina issues in his career, so it really was nothing new to see Wlad's body give out under pressure. As another poster pointed out, Wlad has hit the canvas before without even taking a punch. Wether it's stamina issues or toughness under pressure, Wlad's been exposed on more than one occasion.
     
  13. MaliBua

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    Punisher, is it fair to say, the poison Wlad took on that Fight was the Brutal Power of Lamon fists?
    I mean like Power shots are Wlad's Cryptonite?
    And The Poison like that has Strange affect especially on Wlad, it puts him on ***** Street?:think:D
     
  14. kelics

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  15. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::good I think everyone seems to want to make an excuse for getting your ass kicked. You must remember, Wlad was less than a year removed from his devastating knockout loss to Corrie Sanders. So Wlad needed an excuse to cover up another embarrassing loss, to another mediocre opponent.

    Trust me, if Wlad was really in that bad of shape coming into the ring. I'm pretty sure the fight would of never taken place, not to mention Wlad being able to throw that many power punches during the course of the fight. Like Lamon said after the fight "He threw out everything he had, and I'm the one still standing. He dont have the dog in him like I do". Wlad's lack toughness when the pressure was on, is what lost him that fight. He almost had the same issues against Peter the next year.