Joe Frazier 1972

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  1. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Following his victory over Muhammad Ali in 'The Fight of the Century'
    Joe took time off to tour with his 'musical revue'
    'Smokin Joe and the Knockouts'

    Then a January 15, 1972 fight versus SMU pre-law student, turned Heavyweight boxer,
    Terry Daniels.

    But other fighters, besides Muhammad Ali were hoping for a shot at the
    Championship.
    Floyd Patterson, actually was interested in a bout for 1972.

    The 37 year-old Patterson had just finished winning a 10-Round decision over
    Oscar Bonavena. Floyd stated that he wasn't quite ready yet, and would like to
    get a little better before tangling with Joe Frazier.

    Floyd who had 8-straight victories, was actually in line if wanted a shot.
    Floyd picked up a nice pay-day at Madison Square Garden for his win over
    Bonavena,,,,,,,,Floyd took home $162,000.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Joe dropped off pretty quick.

    I'd compare it to Langford's deterioration after Johnson lost the title.

    He lost interest a bit, his training suffer, his intensity fell off.

    For a fighter of that kind to lose even his top 1% is pretty severe.
     
  3. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Come to think of it how come a Frazier Patterson fight never happened?
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    An act like FOTC would be extremely hard to follow for any fighter of history.
     
  5. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That fight should've come off, Patterson could've given Frazier hell.
     
  6. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The proverbial ball was in Floyd's court.
    He could have had the fight in 1972, anytime he wanted.

    Madison Square Garden was pushing for it.
    And though Floyd wasn't really impressive versus Oscar Bonavena,
    it was Floyd who was actually pushing the Argentinian Bull around in the last 2-rounds.

    Not sure on the fight purse angle. Think Joe Frazier wanted $1,000,000
    plus 25% of the 'live gate'.
    Floyd Patterson wanted $250,000, plus 15% of the 'live gate'.

    The fighters were offered $1,000,000 in total, to be split which ever way they negotiated.

    It sure would have been a better mark on Smokin Joe's list than
    Ron Stander.
     
  7. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Joes white whale was always Ali. Once he defeated Ali that fire and drive was blunted. Even a faded joe is a bad matchup for Floyd.
     
  8. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mm,

    If anything, I'm sure Joe Frazier wouldn't budge on the fight purse.
    Because he was waiting for $3,000,000 for an Ali II fight.

    Plus, with the marginal tax-rate laws, fighting again in 1972 woudn't have put
    any more money in Joe's pocket.
    I'm sure Floyd would have wanted a guarantee of at least $250,000.