If Jeffries defeated Johnson....

The hilarious part if you misunderstood me on Johnson after all these years. Once again, I think he's wildly over rated. If I really wanted to build Jeffries up, I would blindly praise Johnson.

At any rate, a comeback win over another champion in his prime after shedding 80 pounds and being off 5 years from the game has never been done. It would rate as the #1 comeback of all time.

For those who have seen most of the filmed rounds, early on Jeffries misses on a lights out left hook by mere inches. I think it was at the very end of round two! Had that punch landed it would have produced a knockdown for sure, and possibly lead to a TKO / KO. But as it was Jeffries was too gassed, and not nearly as sharp as he once was. By round five it was evident he wasn't a quarter of the fighter he used to be.

 

How about a comedian and a musician? When I say Jack Johnson today, people think of the musician, not the fighter.

 

Yeah at 34, in round two , he must have been absolutely exhausted.atsch
Perhaps its fortunate it wasn't him in the ring with Willard, at age 37 , he might have been gassed, just getting into the ring in that 110 degree heat.
Let alone go 26rds ,and be in front at the time of the stoppage.
Poor old Jeff.
Correction Jeffries was 35,my thanks to Mendoza for pointing this out.

 

Jeff was 35. Learn how to count, Boucher.atsch The tempeture in April 1915 in Cuba was never 110. Keep embracing the myths.

 

If Jeff beat Johnson he'd be in every top 5. His name would be legend instead of trivia. A movie or two or three would have been made, especially with him living right next to Hollywood during the golden age.

But that's just fiction.

Much different from the reality: Jeff was a shattered relic from a forgotten era whose intense, public disgrace faded into quiet obscurity. Some people have a need for martyrs. And the handful of people pushing his name now just dream of what might have been, I try to let them have that and not judge too harshly.
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And,when you say Jim Jeffries ,what do they say then?
Do they say
."Oh thats the guy, no films have been made about".
Or,do they say,"thats the guy,no songs have been written about".
Or,do they say " thats the guy,no documentaries have been made about".
Or, DO THEY JUST GO :huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh
,

 

Temperature, learn how to spell.atsch.
Keep embracing that hate.:good



"I am coming back to redeem the honour of the white race"
And no one even remembers you today ,you big white supremist chump.

 

Not just that, but long layoffs are badly detrimental for stamina, especially considering the very poor overweight shape he was in during retirement.

 

This.

If you beat tour opposition you automaticaly devalue them.

Its a bit like the paradox that you can't study something without changing it.

 

Jeffries would be remembered much more venomously. He would be a white supremacist who came out of retirement specifically to destroy the first black heavyweight champion. Since Johnson wouldn't have stayed on top long enough to generate the controversy that he did, Jeff would look even worse by comparison. He would be "great" in a historical sense, but that greatness would always carry a big asterisk for moral failings.

When the '60s rolled around, people who hated Ali would point to Jeffries as the "true" greatest of all time. Ali, for his part, would probably criticize Jeffries heavily. Jeffries would become the focal point for racism in boxing, on both sides of the divide.

Ironic fate for an uncommunicative alfalfa farmer, eh?