Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Turns 34 Years Old This Week

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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I already said that his skill level is good and he may change his fighting style as he ages. Many fighters change their gameplan as they lose some physical talent. No reason to think Floyd couldn't do the same thing.
     
  2. theflyest

    theflyest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather Sr started Floyd as a child though & had him doing rediculous bootcamp training at a very young age. You got the amateurs, pro careers, hours of sparring, running, etc.
     
  3. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's fair. What I should have said is that Mayweather put himself into the line of fire in a way he didn't have to in the past. Or didn't chose to.

    And, if he fights like that in the future -- whether by choice or because of declining physical talent -- he will be in more actual "wars," which means the likelihood of him getting caught or beaten goes up.
     
  4. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True. It's a long grind.
     
  5. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i honeslty feel like...physically...hes still there....

    sure hes not in his physical prime like he was, say for, the gatti fight.....but i dont think his phsyical attributes have deteriorated that much.....the guy has always been in tremendous shape....and as mentioned....hes hasnt had a much wear and tear...im pretty sure if he needed to move to survive and win...he could....
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you. If Floyd wants to continue to fight, he will be able to and should be able to continue to win.
     
  7. Bobby Heenan

    Bobby Heenan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i dunno if id say floyd put himself in the line of fire or alot of danger against shane......he just made a couple of errors in one round and got caught a couple times....the first one he got a litte lazy and fell for the jab to the stomach with the overhand right that followed it....the 2nd one he(and hes normally very sharp and accurate with his punches) he missed a hook on shane and got caught with a big counter...if he lands that hook nicely....shanes counter probably doesnt hit like that.....floyds human...
     
  8. dvb

    dvb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    roy jones was right in that statment.

    floyd is older,he isnt as quick,he is bigger and heavier.

    him being so inactive will do no good what so ever.

    i think floyd will fight pac,but he will use the excuse of him being inactive and past his best if he does lose.
     
  9. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    agree with all:good
     
  10. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    actually, age affects the lower divisions more than the higher ones as speed is more prevelant.

    PBF has always relied on speed, reflexes and instincts. he is definately not what he once was, but who is at 34? he has been getting hit more especially by an aged Marquez and Mosely.
     
  11. Orthodox Stance

    Orthodox Stance Raw Talent Full Member

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    It was my understanding that Floyd signed a six fight deal with HBO upon his return from the 2007 "retirement". Leonard Ellerbe stated that Floyd and his camp had a "hitlist" of potential opponents that would best cement Floyd's legacy, before eventually hanging em up.

    Presumably Marquez and Mosley were on this list, as they're big names and very winnable fights for Mayweather.

    Obviously with Floyd's legal woes at the moment, he has decided to take a break until he can come back without distractions hanging over him, during a training camp and fight preparations.

    This also allows time for Pacquiao to peak, lose focus and interest in boxing for politics, and receive more ring wear and tear, before they eventually meet later this year or in 2012.

    Whether or not Mayweather gets straight into the ring with Manny next, I doubt very much. To me it makes more sense that he take an easier 'tune up' fight - with someone of a similar style.

    This is where Khan comes in. Fast, throws lots of punches, but still flawed and leaves himself open.

    Mayweather has said he wants to fight in the UK and believe me this fight would do huge numbers. It could easily sell out Wembley stadium plus lucrative PPV.

    Once Mayweather wins this fight, which he could comfortably, there would be even more interest on the Pacquiao fight.

    Same trainer, similar styles, stable mates - and the British public (2nd best market - outside the U.S) plus Muslims worldwide would be added to the millions who want to see Mayweather lost that infamous 0.

    Then the Mayweather - Pacquiao fight gets made. Title : Pound for Pound
     
  12. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing with him is that he only needs to fight and beat one guy and thats Manny Pacqiao who also ages. Its not like Mayweather is going to stick to boxing for 5 more years and fight young up and comers. 1 or 2 more very important fights and he is done.

    Ps Never knew I shared birthday with him. I'm turning 30.
     
  13. andres31

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    Your post is good and is very flawed. First you start with the very hater attittude of him losing. Second Hopkins is a natural wonder that relies in his sound style and fundamentals and here is the part that you must analyze in a Floyd article. (my natural language is spanish, let you know that sometimes I don't find the right words). Floyd did not move as he does before, you are right, but he don't need to do that at that weight category and it would be worst for him if he fights in the old way. He is a near perfect fighter in all departments, he has not take much punishment and your critic about the number of punches that he throws per round is innacurate. You dont win fights throwing a lot of punches, you win fights punching. Floyd did not put his body ih his punches, and that is amazing, because he hurt Mosley more than one time with punches at arm lenght. He has compensated his lower movements with stronger punches without losing technique and soundness and that is vital for any fighter who is getting old. If he moves like he does before he would not have the pop in his punches, and he needs it at higher weight classes. He is no a one punch ko, but he has mantain the ability to wear down and keep at bay fighter who most people think that were too strong for him. Look Mosley Cotto and you will see that Cotto lands Strong punches with all his might and all the body behind him, and neither of them looks to shook Mosley, like Floyd punches does. Again Floyd punching without putting his body behind his punches. Every one said that Mosley would walk throw Floyd punches, and that never happen. Floyd did not ko him, but his punches were strong enought to keep him at bay, and when he hit Mosley hard, Mosley retreat and feel the punches, like in the second part of the second round for example. His hands speed remain the same, but hitting harder as he plants more firmly in the ground. Floyd has elevated the pocket boxing to new levels as his hands speed remains the same, his technique is better now, practically perfect and his stamina is unquestionable. That is the part that is flawed in your analysis. You came with the same song, but fail to see that the changes that Floyd has done to his style, is better suited to his age and his weight class. And the last thing that i touch in the first part of my paragraph. HBO has a number of the quantity of punches that the average welter weigh throw by round and the numbers they hit. You only see the number that all the haters look and signal, total punches throw, but fail to mention that he trows considerable less punches but hit with more frequency also. And Floyd punches more times than not are perfect punches that goes flush to his adversaries. Is meaningless if you throw 54 punches per round and hit 18, but Floyd Throw 37 and hit 24. You did not wear down, don't damage and don't ko a opponent making the swing, you do that punching, and Floyd is hands down a much more contact fighter than any other welter weight. How much time he has in the ring is only a matter of his choice and how much longer he wants to be active. If his last fights are an indication of what he can do, the future is more brighter to him, than Cotto who has 30 years, and better than Paquiao too, who is younger. There is no a single evidence that ha has lost something of his prime, but is pretty evident that he has made the right adjustments to his age and weight class. His fragile hands are prime factor to limit his output and to be fair he remains punching per round at a much higher percentage that the average welter. It seems that nobody knows that he trows 75 punches in round eleven with Mosley, is evident that nobody see that he runs to his corner in more than one occasion, and a fighter who has no legs, and is getting old cant do that. When he was hurt Mosley push him hard and Floyd lands in only one leg, and Mosley was unable to put him on the canvas. The show you how strong his legs are. If you want to point to a weakness in his legs, there are none. Mosey go to the canvas with Forrest and his legs were gone, and he was young, Floyd legs shake, but were strong enough to sustain the Mosley pushing, and its a wonder, because he do that with only one leg!!!!!!!. It seems that your question is very legitimate, but it seems that in the last fight of Floyd you see only what you want to see and not the complete picture. The most dangerous thing is the inactivity. What he has left only he knows. But his showing are impressive, his technique is flawess, his punching power is stronger and his conditioning impecable. To me no weakness, only time will tell, and how much longer he want to stay active.
     
  14. I dont think Floyd should fight again , he didnt look great in the Mosley fight
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    how old were mosley (38 :lol:) and JMM (36,37 :lol:)? JMM jumped 2 weight divisions to fight floyd....
    hatton just got his ass kicked by collazo in his only other fight at welter....

    nice try rookie.....