I'm asking a straight foward question, I've never seen a dent on a fighters face like that there on Montiel, have you??????? .....and you know what, it looks like a scar to me, it might have already been there beforehand and the picture before the fight is just not a HD one to catch that scar from that particular angle.
I haven't either. Donaire isn't even a heavyweight and his power does that. He really knows how to punch
The bone that caved in is very thin and skinny. It's not like his cranium got dented by a punch. I'm actually surprised these injuries don't happen more often.
Can't say for sure that it was caused by that punch, but there's a slow mo close up while he was down flailing his legs, and if you look closesly on that side of his face, there is definitely a depression. Damnn what a warrior montiel is getting up.
If it was caused by a punch, it is just a broken zygomatic arch or bone. The way was was caught is not exactly like a frontal punch as he swung his right and moving forward. In effect, montiel was actually moving away from donaire's punch. If it broke the zygomatic bone, it would not crush it inwards but rather outward and the space displaced caused a well defined sunken area.
HOLY **** :yikes WTF happened there? If thats from a punch they shoulda checked those Donaire wraps a bit better.:smoke
It is not a hard bone like on your forehead. Where the jaw meets the cranium has a weak point, a small gap. zygomatic arch If you are in the medical field (or an assassin) you actually know that a person can be easily killed by inserting a pencil through it. A child can do it - seriously. This has been the contention for helmet design, like in the NFL, because the shock absorbers rests above the arch.
so you're saying if Montiel was unlucky last night and Nonito's hook landed a bit differently, Montiel would have died?
No. The arch tends to collapse outward, creating a larger space, thus dent. But the gap is frail when compared to other parts of the entire skull. The gap can be seperated by pushing a pencil through it (when I say push not a full force stab, literally a push with some effort).
Which is why I brought it up, I've never seen such a defined indention on a fighters face. The glove over the wraps are of such a size as to prevent such a thing from happening to a fighter. A dent such as is in Montiel, is something that would be more apt to be caused if you were hit there by a smaller object, like say a golf ball. ......at the position the dent is on Montiel's face, you would think that the impact of the glove would have been mostly cushioned by the skull (temple area) and the cheekbone, but the dent in on that face as if it was put there from a smaller harder object.
YouTb another spectacular example of such breakage in Cung Le's sanshou championship fight against Scott Sheely with Sheely's arch fractured rendering the same depression about the left face, delivered via a heel hatchet kick to the head, somewhat of a glancing blow interestingly
A heel, which is much smaller than a gloved fist. Now that I think of it, remember when a big deal was raised by Roberto Garcia about Paquiao's handraps having ridges at the knuckles for the Margarito fight???? The commision dismissed Garcia's claim even though the inspector that was inspecting Margarito wrap had told them the fist area above the knuckles has to be completely flat with no ridges. ......Pacquiao's wraps at the knuckle area was full of sharp ridges on them, and the commision let it ride despite Garcia's vehemently protesting...... .......I'm wondering now whether Roberto Garcia who trains Nonito, wrapped Nonito's handwraps with those same ridges Pacquiao was allowed to sport vs Margarito. ......the thinking being, "if Pacquiao is allowed to sport them, why not my fighter." .....I can see where those high ridges on a handwrap could cause a dent as the one on Montiel's face.
What goes through the zygomatic arch...it's the bulk of the proximal masseter muscle, in this case the right muscle, as it insert from attachment of the jaw/mandible bone to the temporal part of the cranium...the fracture of the overlying arch caused the muscle thus compressed to go into a reflexive paralyzing momentary spasm which when not coordinated with the uninjured left masseter conspired to yield a grotesque twisted mouth opening gesture, all played out within seconds but captured forever in vivid slo mo.