Why is Haye getting so much hate over the Klit negotiations?

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  1. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Booth and Boente were both on Ringside....Booth says 'hey lets have public negotiations, 100% transparent'.....Boente turns it down. (this interview is on youtube)

    Then when Haye asks for a May fight, it gets turned down because Wlad would rather fight an amatuer in Chisora. If Haye had been fighting a 14 fight amatuer everyone would have been up in arms.

    If we look at the above objectivly...it seems like only one person is ducking....and thats not Haye.
     
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    he never asked for a may fight, july is the month, wlad said he will fight haye after beating chisora - there is no problem here.

    haye has already pulled out vs a klit.

    in every interview, he is so full of himself - says he was "undisputed crusierweight champion" in every interview. he wasn't! being an undisputed champion is beating everyone like bernard hopkins at middleweight. haye didn't beat every top fighter at crusierweight. someone who is more clued in will tell you the names he hadn't fought at cruiserweight because i cannot be bothered to look at boxrec to see how relevant fighters such as steve cunningham, adamek, erdei and huck were when haye was campaigning at cruiser.
     
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    yes we know he pulled out, that was before Valuev, when Setanta went bust and he used his back as a cover-up, so what, was he supposed to fight for free? this is 2011....Haye wanted May because Khan has the April ppv on sky....which could have been done had Klit not took on a 14 fight fat amatuer...you also fail to respond to where the klit camp refused 100% public negoatiations...why not do it if they have nothing to hide?
     
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    Objectively huh? :lol: Yeah real objective you are! Or just blind?

    Nobody worth their ass negotiates multi-million contracts in public. Did Haye negotiate publicly with Valuev when he was also in negotiations with Vitali? Booth/Haye are amateurs when it comes to "negotiations", caught in lie after lie.

    May wasn't accepted because RTL wasn't available. Sky + RTL + Venue was all agreed for July 2. Wlad wanted to fight Chisora in Apr AND Haye on July 2.....Wlad was ready to sign, Haye walked out.
     
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    why not negotiate in public? it harms nobody...fighting in July meant Haye had to figt a mandatory...povetkin or chagaev in May!
     
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    in fact haye did not want may because khan has that date, just go on google and search and you'll find this to be true.

    public negotiations - yea would be cool to watch. but in my eyes nothing is being hid. theres 50/50 split, wlad is gonna fight haye in july after he beats wife beater chisora.
     
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    It's unprofessional and parties involved deserve confidentiality, simple as that.
     
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    :thumbsup a guy who knows what he is talking about :thumbsup
     
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    this.
     
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    Booo hoooo poor David has to face a mandatory. Chagaev became his mandatory within a week of the Haye/Harrison fight. Maybe he shouldn't have sat on his ass so long "resting" and cleared it already.

    Klitschko fights his mandatories without hiding behind local boxing commissions, so should Haye!
     
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    trust me , the governing body would give an exception for sure if a mandatory would get in the way of a unification bout.
     
  12. swayz

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    i'm not sure about everything you wrote;

    but if wlad hadn't decided to fight chisora the fight would be happening. that is a fact.

    so why is haye getting so much ****? i don't know.
     
  13. Uncle Rico

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    :huh

    100% transparent negotiations is never done in high-profiled bouts like this, which is why he [Booth] asked for it, knowing full well what the answer was going to be. Don't fall for his tricks.

    The May fight couldn't be done because both the German and UK TV stations couldn't host it in that month. Remember, they're sharing the complet pot; therefore everything must be in unison for both fighters to get the maximum amount of money.

    If Haye's worried about Wladimir not making the July 2nd date, then he can always fight his brother, Vitali, who will be ready for July. But the fact is, and I can't see how any Haye fan can deny this, Haye appears to be scared by Vitali. Despite promises of knocking out any (or both) brothers, Haye won't entertain the idea of facing Vitali.
     
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    You become the undisputed champion if you win and hold at least three of the four major titles in the same weight division. When Haye KO Enzo he won the WBA, WBO, and WBC cruiserweight title.
     
  15. shaunster101

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    In the interest of objectivity you should perhaps note that by agreeing to figt Chisora, Wlad knew that a July 2nd date could not happen as Haye would now have to fight a mandatory defence. People seem to ignore this for some reason.

    You can't sign a unification fight if the Champion has a chance of losing the belts before he fights you - therefore Haye had to fight his madatory.

    Haye could have avoided this by not being a ***** and fighting Audley, instead getting his mandatory defence out the way - so he got himself in this situation. But the bottom line is Wlad had to make a choice between Chisora and Haye and chose Delboy. My guess is to run out his RTL deal and then renegotiate to maximise the income for a future Haye fight.