Why is Haye getting so much hate over the Klit negotiations?

Well done iceman..well done:hammertime

 

It does not matter atsch It's inadmissable

 

i stand for truth, justice and the real heavyweight champ

:good

 

Back injury not hand injury he only suffered hand injury during Valuev matchup

 

By the way, the point most people miss when talking about Booth's request for public negotiations, is that it isn't unprecedented for public negotiations - What is incredibly rare, is to want to hide them.

99% of negotiations which go on are public. We get to hear about certain demands, the haggling, the compromises and so on. That's just normal in boxing. Don King has done the same for decades, as has Bob Arum, Golden Boy do it now, DiBella gives us pretty much everything, Frank Warren goes into details, Mick Hennessy has, Gary Shaw has a no issues going into the finest points of a contract - In fact, how many times can you remember where a team openly asked for the negotiations to be kept private?

As far as I know, the only time apart from K2, was when Mayweather and Pacquiao were dealing the second time and everything, up until the fight breaking down, was down behind closed doors. Later on, like with Haye and Klitschko, we found out about certain demands but only after negotiations were finished with.

Public negotiations are extremely common. It's very rare a fighter or team actually asks for it to be kept private. Sure, it's rare for the other team to ask for public negotiations, but that's because it's unprecedented to have it written in a contract that they must be kept private.

 

I'm talking about from in a court, where it is inadmissible in most countries. Let's assume two people are suspected of something: Would it be normal for the innocent person to refuse the test? Would it be normal for the guilty person to demand one?

Of course not.

 

A guilty person can manipulate the test to appear "truthful", an innocent person can register false positives as well and appear "guilty".

I've personally refused a polygraph twice, and had successful outcomes.

 

so did I. A lawyer friend of mine said if you are ever in a situation where the police or such wants you to test... DONT DO IT!!!! there is a very good reason they are not used in court..... false positives!!!!!!!!!! and that can cause you more problems then just saying "NO"

dont do it Jack:yep

 

we have a clear picture!!!. Everything was agreed to... EVERYTHING... but haye didnt/wouldnt sign by cut date... so wlad took a sure thing to make sure he had fights... last time have "promised to sign"...wlad lost 6 months...2 fight.... no way that was going to happen again. Haye walked away because of chisora... not the contract:deal

all haye has to do is sign.. the same deal is sitting and waiting to be signed... all he has to do is SIGN!!!!!

 

:goodRight on, know your rights....or lose them!

 

The legal example is just that - And example!

Let's assume a mafia don's daughter goes out and says she's been with a guy. Her dad is out for blood and catches two people. The one who is guilty isn't going to ask for a lie detector, whilst the other guy who is innocent says "no".

It's just the principle of it. If you have nothing to hide, why should it matter?

But, as I said, it's nonsense that other fighters aren't negotiated in public. I can only think of one other case where both sides were prohibited from talking to the press and that was for Mayweather/Pacquiao the second time around.

 

Yes sir, right on the money

 

This is all fine apart from one thing - What if Wlad loses? Sure, he shouldn't because Chisora is badly outclassed but assuming he does, then what? Does he still fight Wlad for 50/50 despite Haye being the champion and draw? Or does he wait until Wlad and his brother have both fought Chisora? What happens to the July 2nd date, if Wlad gets a cut? Does it get pushed back?

There's an obvious reason why Haye hasn't signed. In boxing, you can't guarantee anything and, yes, even though Chisora realistically stands no chance, it still has to be taken into consideration.