Who is the most recent heavyweight champion that these fighters could beat?

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Who is the most recent heavyweight champion that these fighters would have a good chance against.

    Lineal champions only.

    Joh L Sullivan

    Bob Fitzsimmons

    Jim Jeffries

    Tommy Burns

    Jack Johnson

    Sam Langford

    Harry Greb

    Jack Dempsey

    Mickey Walker

    Joe Louis

    I expect some varied opinions!
     
  2. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd definately go with John L. over Michael Moorer any day of the week for starters
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I am not sure that I would rule out John L beating Lennox Lewis.

    Obviously my interpretation of his abilities is verry loose, but it is at least plausible.
     
  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    off the top of my head...

    Joh L Sullivan = leon spinks because he came forward. KO

    Bob Fitzsimmons = moorer

    Jim Jeffries= leon spinks, just like what gerrie coetzee did.

    Tommy Burns=moorer

    Jack Johnson= mike tyson (bonecrusher held him but jack would hold him and do something)


    Sam Langford=old george foreman at least

    Harry Greb= leon on points

    Jack Dempsey= both klitchkos and a whole lot more

    Mickey Walker =0

    Joe Louis= both klitchkos and a whole lot more
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the reply and a couple of observations:

    If Fitzsimmons and Burns are given a good shot at beating Moorer, then surely Sullivan and Jeffries have a chance?

    If Mickey Walker held Jack Sharkey to a draw, then shouldn't he have a chance against some of the 30s champions and some weaker champions since?
     
  6. choklab

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    Of course, it goes without saying. My only hesitation was that moorer could box, but then if old foreman catches him...second thoughts yes so would old tashy.

    I considered this but felt beacuse walker beat sharkey in a non title fight this could have been a cold as oposed to hot sharkey, I know walker beat other good contenders at heavyweight but not by TKO or anything that could guarantee a win against a champion with it all on the line. his fight with schmeling was a bad match. Braddock is seen as weak by some but as an tired and rusty fighter he gave a peak louis holy hell in that losing effort.
     
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  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Not a champion.

    Lineals only.
     
  9. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Bob Fitzsimmons - M. Moorer, Buster Douglas....

    Jim Jeffries- every fighter, except Holmes, both Klitschko, Lewis...

    Tommy Burns - 0

    Jack Johnson- Everybody

    Sam Langford - Everybody, except both Klitschko, and Lewis

    Harry Greb- Moorer

    Jack Dempsey- Wlad, Moorer, Holyfield, many guys....many guys

    Mickey Walker- 0

    Joe Louis - Everybody
     
  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    heres another way of asking the same thing, how many other lineals could shannon briggs beat?
     
  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Mickey Walker is getting little love here!

    Chocklab has given a verry good explaination of his choice, but I think that Walker could slip through the cracks somwhere.
     
  12. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    He could beat Patterson or Johannson.....maybe.....
     
  13. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you kidding? The Leon Spinks who beat Ali would mop the floor up with those dinosaurs who fought with the funny looking stance, and so would Michael Moorer. Greg and Sullivan would have gotten :dead I mean Tommy Burns beating Michael Moore??:lol:
     
  14. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Any big puncher can beat any lineal champ on a given night. Those who disagree do not understands heavyweight boxing. Not saying they would, I'm saying they could. So Sullivan, Fitzsimmons, Langford, Dempsey, and Louis could in theory win.

    Greb and Johnson could out box the lesser more limited punchers at heavy such as Ingo, Spinks, Old Foreman, and Briggs. I also think Greb and Johnson could out point the following lineal champs post Louis: Walcott, Charles, Ingo, Spinks, Moorer, old Foreman, and Briggs.

    I think Walker, and Burns would only have a shot at the worst of lot such as Spinks.