Bigger Heart: Pacquiao or Montiel?

''THE UPSET OF THE CENTURY!!!!!!!!!!!!''

According to the commentators, legends.

 

I remember on Steve Bunce's Show on...Setanta...where they were discussing potential Khan opponents following his victory over Barrera and Moses was the name discussed the most. Acosta wasn't even on the top 10 list. Its incredible how much the landscape of 135 has changed. Marquez and Diaz at 1 and 2 respectively. Euro-level Yuri Romanov (I think) at number 3.

 

Madness with Romanov. Looked potentially a very good fighter, then he just lost interest and disappeared. Weird.:?

Moses isnt a bad fighter though. Decent jab, fast hands. He could trouble most of the top fighters at lightweight, though would beat very few of them. Acosta though, quality fighter. I bang on enough about him already so I wont go in-depth again. But's he's very good.

 

Hard to say.....PAC's heart should not be in question based on his resume....challenging not jsut the best, but men bigger than himself who are the best in their natural weight classes. PAC has been stopped but look at where he is today. That says alot. Montiel gets up but he not quite where PAC is sitting in the world of boxing at the moment. both are men with great heart...who has more? That's a good question and no one knows for sure.

 

Dela homo quit!!!!

Is there a debate on that? He was not getting organ rearranging shots, he was peppered with 1000 left hands, who Hoya claimed to have no power (initially before he shouted ROID).


Bottomline, Homo quit!!!!!

 

Its good to know that Muhammed Ali and Julio Cesar Chavez are also quitters.

 

Montiel.

Montiel left on his own two feet. Pac left on stretchers

 

Appropriate response:

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Check out what i wrote for pac vs margarito or khan vs maidana. I dont care :rofl

 

They quit. So what?

You tend to make quitting a big stuff.

Hoya quit!

But it was the right decision. He was not connecting anything, he was eating so many punches, he was slow as molasses compared to the fighter he was fighting. So what is the point? Hoping for a miracle that somehow after absorbing 1200 punches in the head, he can throw a perfect punch that would KO a fighter who was able to absorb Cotto's and Margarito punches?

How would you define that term - not raising up from his stool at the sound of the bell? TKO? That is still quitting no matter how you sugarcoat it. If it would make you happy, let us call it "no mas", or "discontinue", "lay-off", "cease" or whatever synonym you can find if "quit" is so disagreeable.

 

no contest PAC all the way

 

Everyone makes it out that it is a complete lack of heart. I think it was the right decision for him to stop too, but if it means he has no heart like is being implied in the Montiel vs de la Hoya heart thread, then following that precedent Chavez, Frazier, Ali etc all have no heart.

There also happens to be posters saying he showed no heart against Hopkins because he got KOed by a body shot. Working of that precedent then Manny showed no heart when he didn't get up after being dropped against Singsurat and Morales showed no heart in Manny-Morales 3.

There happens to be a ******ed lack of consistency some posters show (not necassarily aimed at you, that was solid post) in their approach to this issue. But if we say it constitutes a lack of heart we have to apply that to Ali, Frazier etc and if we apply the second issue of not rising after the ten count it should apply to Manny and Morales.

 

Montiel still able to talk about about your boy Z :rofl

 

And he left the ring walking. Your boy left on a surf board :rofl:rofl:rofl

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How about pac and buboy crying in each others arms like school girls when morales beat him.:rofl

Z still hanging ten ?