Marquez, Nacho, DLH, Canelo, JCC Sr, Sulaiman get heated on televised mock trial

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    During a televised show that aired in México, a mock trial was held, which involved several Mexican boxing personalities. World Champion Ana Maria Torres, Juan Manuel Marquez, TV commentator Alfonso Morales
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    Juan Manuel, the current lightweight champion of the world, gave his arguments and said that he was in total shock when he found out that Canelo and Hatton were fighting for the WBC belt.

    "That really sucks, I am speaking as a fighter and for the fighters that are ranked. They work very hard to get in the rankins and all of a sudden this kid is the number one contender because he has the silver belt? Come on, what about Perro Angulo, What about the English guy who is ranked number 4? What about Vanes, and now you give him Hatton who isn´t even ranked in the super welterweight division. It took me a lot of years to get a title shot that is why I am speaking as a fighter"

    Beristain also had some hard words for Sulaiman - This is total BS. Sulaiman owns the WBC everyone knows that and I am happy to get this oportunity to say this to his face. Why don´t you help Angulo get a visa, when you have done it in the past for many fighters. You have the power to do it, this is ridiculous. This kid Canelo has talent but he is too green to get a title shot. He hasn´t beaten any contenders yet and Hatton? what has he done? Nothing at all. He is not even a decent fighter´´

    Ana Maria Torres had her point of view as well - "I know inside the mexican boxing community, everyone thinks of this as a joke. Many fighters may not come up and say it, but it is true. I personally think he doesn´t deserve the title shot. He hasn´t fought any major oponents yet. Why a title shot? Canelo is a good prospect but he has done nothing yet. I totally agree with Juan and Nacho. The kid didn´t face any oponents in the rankings to become number one, and even worse Hatton hasn´t even fought at this weight class, so I think the people know about this and you can not fool them anymore"

    Sulaiman basically explained the situation that most of us know and he said the request for the vacant shot came from the promoter Oscar De La Hoya. he said the other contenders were not avaliable and the members of the WBC voted for Hatton, who is ranked number 6 as a welterweight, to gain the ability to face Alvarez for thet belt in accordance to the WBC rules.

    "That is what is going on. We go by the rules and that is what the members of voted for. It is not my decision but the decision of the board of the WBC. I am dissapointed that Marquez is not by the fighter's side. I am always on the fighter's side, and we want to give Canelo a chance because he is number one. The public wants it and I think Marquez is a jealous person who envies Canelo´s popularity. Juan Manuel I am surprised that you are acting this way."

    Marquez interrupted Sulaiman and said - "I don´t envy anyone because I am on my way out. I am a current champion who takes on anyone, and I'm a champion in three weight classes. What can I be jealous of?"

    By this time the argument was really heavy, Nacho told Sulaiman that he was a joke and Marquez said that many fans agree that Canelo and Hatton didn´t deserve the fight.

    Oscar De La Hoya said a few words.
    "Don´t get me wrong. I am just listening and I think the WBC has done the right thing by giving Canelo and Mathew the title shot. They deserve the fight. Hatton is not a pushover, he is a tough fighter. He comes to fight and punches hard. We are acting like if Canelo is already the winner and lets remember one thing I fought against the Matthew Hatton´s of the world, and so did you Juan Manuel. For example I fought against Shane Mosley who nobody knew about and he beat me. Juan Manuel, you fought against Chris John and you lost, so this is who Mathew Hatton is. He could be like Mosley and John."

    A very important opinion was needed and that came Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., who made a phone call to the show and said ´´I think Canelo has the talent, the skills, the power and he is on his way up, but i truly believe and I always say things the way I think - is at the moment you guys at Televisa have created a monster by way of publicity. He is just a product of TV and that hurts the fighter, and you make people believe that he is superman and he is not. He is a good fighter who will reach his potential but he is too young now to proclaim, as Televisa does, that he is the biggest thing on earth´´

    Regarding a fight with his son Julio and Canelo, Chavez said
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    Nacho ended by saying to Don Jose -
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  2. OPBF

    OPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Been trying to find a vid. What program did this happen in?
     
  3. elTerrible

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    "Sulaiman basically explained the situation that most of us know and he said the request for the vacant shot came from the promoter Oscar De La Hoya. he said the other contenders were not avaliable and the members of the WBC voted for Hatton, who is ranked number 6 as a welterweight, to gain the ability to face Alvarez for thet belt in accordance to the WBC rules."


    That is ****ing disgusting what is going on. It sounds like DLH just rings up the WBC and asks them to make it a title fight and its done.

    And how the **** is mathew hatton comparable to shane mosley or chris john, that is a ****ing joke
     
  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    HAHA. Beristein is a ****ing badass!
     
  5. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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  6. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Turns out the WBC might not have contacted the other top rated 154 contenders. Check out the Ryan Rhodes article on b0xingscene.

    GBP have concocted with the WBA and WBC three joke world title fights from 140-154 (Morales-Maidana, Ortiz-Berto, Canelo-Hatton) in the span of like a month. That's three legit contenders they've ****ed over.

    Looks like the war with Top Rank is forcing them to go dirty.
     
  7. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow this is sounded like something i would have loved to watch.. I think most were honest (believe it or not even Suliaman).... Only one who was full of **** was ODLH.. He says Hatton hits hard:patsch No he doesnt Hatton is a poweder puncher.. He says Mosley was unheard of:patsch WTF is that kind of ****, Oscar knows damn well Mosley was regarded as one of the top fighters in the world when they fought and was long reigning lightweight champ and kod top welterweight contender Wilfredo Rivera to earn his shot at OScar... Oscar knew who Shane was and also knew his capabilities.. As for mentioning John he had defended his wba title 3 times and had beaten former champs Derrick Gainer and Osamu Sato before fighting Marquez.. ODLH is full of ****!!




    Ps Many of you on esb know that im a huge Oscar fan(my 2nd all time favorite) and i have even been accused of being a nuthugger.. But i call it how i see it and OScar is full of ****:fire
     
  8. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I would love to have seen this. Hopefully Suliaman was really squirming as these guys laid into him.

    Also, at least two of the WBC ranked contenders - Rhodes and, I think, Vanes have said they were never contacted about their availability. Suliaman is a lying **** but I suppose we all knew that anyway.
     
  9. wow_junky

    wow_junky Retired Full Member

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    Sounds like a great show, glad to see some people not falling for the WBC's tripe!

    Oh and Oscar is a spaz.
     
  10. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    damn the wbc are kinder to oscar then his own magazine the ring
     
  11. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ****
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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTvt6OcNnsU&feature=related[/ame]
     
  12. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I have a feeling JMM wont be renewing his contract with GBP when it expires this year.
     
  13. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good. Listen to *******s come in here and bash on JMM for stating facts along with Beristain. Im thinking the reason JMM didnt get his shots earlier is because he is nobodies puppet. He and Beristain dont take **** from anyone.

    *******s bashing JMM in 3 2 1 GO!!!
     
  14. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    ^^^

    :lol: @ this paranoid fool
     
  15. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Very interesing indeed...i wonder what Morales' opinion on all this is...:think