now...am i right saying there are actually NO official british boxing ratings...(or irish for that matter)...? where's the best place to look for ratings, albeit unofficial ?...boxing news ??
My personal British & Irish rankings. Heavyweight (201lbs+) 1. David Haye (WBA World Champion)* 2. Derek Chisora (British & Commonwealth) 3. Sam Sexton 4. Tyson Fury (English) 5. Martin Rogan 6. John McDermott 7. Audley Harrison 8. Michael Sprott 9. David Price 10. Tom Dallas 11. Larry Olubamiwo 12. Dave Ferguson 13. Coleman Barrett (Irish) 14. Richard Towers 15. Ali Adams Cruiserweight (200lbs) 1. Ola Afolabi* 2. Herbie Hide 3. Enzo Maccarinelli 4. Terry Dunstan (English) 5. Rob Norton (British) 6. David Dolan 7. Tyrone Wright 8. Matty Askin 9. Ian Timms 10. Tony Conquest 11. Jon Lewis Dickinson 12. Leon Williams 13. John Ibbitson 14. JJ Ojuederie 15. Mark Krence Light Heavyweight (175lbs) 1. Nathan Cleverly (WBO Interim)* 2. Danny McIntosh (European)* 3. Tony Bellew (Commonwealth) 4. Bob Ajisafe 5. Ovil McEnzie 6. Travis Dickinson 7. Tony Dodson 8. Steve McGuire 8. Michael Sweeney 9. Darren Stubbs 10. Craig Denton 11. Tony Jeffries 12. Menay Edwards 13. Joe Smyth 14. Matthew Barney 15. Cirian Healy (Irish) Super Middleweight (168lbs) 1. Carl Froch (WBC World Champion)* 2. Brian Magee* 3. James DeGale (British) 4. George Groves (Commonwealth) 5. Paul Smith 6. Tony Quigley 7. Kenny Anderson (Celtic) 8. Paul David (English) 9. Anthony Fitzgerald (Irish) 10. Carl Dilks 11. Daniel Cadman 12. Paul Morby 13. Kerry Hope 14. Danny Butler 15. Erick Ochieng Middleweight (160lbs) 1. Matthew Macklin* 2. Craig McEwan 4. Darren Barker (British) 4. Andy Lee 5. Martin Murray (Commonwealth) 6. Gary O'Sullivan (Irish) 7. Patrick Mendy 8. Howard Eastman 9. Nick Blackwell (English) 10. Matt Hainy 11. Tony Hill 12. Billy Joe Saunders 13. Liam Cameron 14. Kevin Concepcion 15. Kurt Bromberg Light Middleweight (154lbs) 1. Ryan Rhodes* 2. Sam Webbe (British) 3. James Moore 4. Prince Aaron 5. Max Maxwell 6. Brian Rose 7. Neil Sinclair (Irish) 8. Joe Selkirk 9. Martin Concepcion 10. Brett Flournoy 11. Joe McNally 12. Steve O'Meara 13. Alex Matvienko 14. Nathan Graham 15. Kris Carslaw Welterweight (147lbs) 1. Kell Brook (WBO No.1)* 2. Craig Watson (British) 3. Matthew Hatton (European) 4. Michael Jennings 5. Colin Lynnes 6. John O’Donnell 7. Denton Vassel (Commonwealth) 8. Junior Witter 9. Kevin McIntyre (Celtic) 10. Bradley Pryce 11. Lee Purdy 12. Gary McMillian 13. Michael Lomax 14. Young Mutley 15. Stephen Haughian Light Welterweight (140lbs) 1. Amir Khan (WBA World Champion)* 2. Paul McCloskey* 3. Ajose Olusegun (Commonwealth) 4. Ashely Theophane (British) 5. Lenny Daws 6. Jason Cook 7. Frankie Gavin (Irish) 8. Steve Williams 9. Dean Byrne 10. Barry Morrison 11. Peter McDonough 12. Tyrone Nurse 13. Curtis Woodhouse 14. Karl Place 15. Dean Harrison Lightweight (135lbs) 1. John Murray (European)* 2. Kevin Mitchell 3. Gavin Rees 4. Anthony Crolla (British) 5. Andy Murray (Irish) 6. Lee McAllister (Commonwealth) 7. Nigel Wright 8. Alex Arthur 9. Willie Limmond 10. John Watson 11. Martin Gethin (English) 12. Derry Matthews 13. Ryan Brawley 14. Gary McArthur 15. Ben Murphy Super Featherweight (130lbs) 1. Ricky Burns (WBO World Champion)* 2. Stephen Foster Jnr (European)* 3. Gary Buckland 4. Gary Skykes (British) 5. Carl Johanesson 6. Liam Walsh (Commonwealth) 7. Andy Morris 8. Paul Truscott 9. Paul Appleby 10. Eddie Hyland (Irish) 11. Kevin O'Hara 12. John Kays 13. Troy James 14. James Ancliff 15. Stephen Ormond Featherweight (125lbs) 1. Stephen Smith (Commonwealth) 2. John Simpson (British) 3. Martin Lindsay 4. Patrick Hyland (Irish) 5. Ricky Owen 6. Chris Male 7. Joe Murray 8. Ryan Walsh 9. Terry Flannigan 10. Lee Selby 11. Del Rogers 12. Mickey Convey 13. Martin Ward 14. Mark Callaghan 15. Dai Davies Super Bantamweight (122lbs) 1. Rendall Munroe* 2. Jason Booth (British & Commonwealth) 3. Willie Casey 4. Jamie Arthur 5. Scott Quigg 6. Kris Hughes 7. Carl Frampton (Celtic) 8. Paul Hyland (Irish) 9. Rhys Roberts 10. Gavin Ried 11. Josh Wale 12. Robbie Turley 13. Mark Moran 14. Davey Savage Jnr 15. Paul Economides Bantamweight (118lbs) 1. Jamie McDonnell (European & Commonwealth)* 2. Stuart Hall (British) 3. Ian Napa 4. Gary Davies 5. Craig Lyon (English) 6. Michael Walsh 7. Martin Power 8. Kid Galahad 9. Matthew Edmonds 10. Ross Burkinshaw Super Flyweight (115lbs) 1. Andy Bell 2. John Donnelly 3. Don Broadhurst 4. Jamie Conlan 5. Delroy Spencer 6. Francis Croes 7. 8. 9. Flyweight (112lbs) 1. Shinny Bayaar 2. Paul Edwards (British) 3. Ashley Sexton (English) 4. Chris Edwards (Commonwealth) 5. Luke Wilton 6. Usman Ahmed 7. Kevin Colgan 9. 10.
absolutley it is. I could make a British title rankings out of mine with ease but the BBBofC cannot???
This took me 15 minutes but the BBBofC cannot get of the arse. Heavyweight (201lbs+) Champion: Derek Chisora (Commonwealth) Mandatory: Tyson Fury (English) 1. Sam Sexton 2. Martin Rogan 3. John McDermott 4. Audley Harrison 5. Michael Sprott 6. David Price 7. Tom Dallas 8. Larry Olubamiwo 9. Dave Ferguson 10. Richard Towers *Unranked - David Haye (WBA World Champion) Cruiserweight (200lbs) Champion: Rob Nortan Mandatory: Herbie Hide 1. Ola Afolabi 3. Enzo Maccarinelli 3. Terry Dunstan (English) 4. David Dolan 5. Tyrone Wright 6. Matty Askin 7. Tony Conquest 8. Jon Lewis Dickinson 9. Leon Williams 10. John Ibbitson Light Heavyweight (175lbs) Champion: Vacant Mandatory: Vacant 1. Danny McIntosh (European)* 2. Tony Bellew (Commonwealth) 3. Bob Ajisafe 4. Ovil McEnzie 5. Travis Dickinson 6. Tony Dodson 7. Steve McGuire 8. Darren Stubbs 9. Craig Denton 10. Tony Jeffries *Unranked - Nathan Cleverly (WBO Interim) Super Middleweight (168lbs) Champion: James DeGale (British) Mandatory: George Groves (Commonwealth) 1. Paul Smith 2. Tony Quigley 3. Kenny Anderson (Celtic) 4. Paul David (English) 5. Anthony Fitzgerald (Irish) 6. Carl Dilks 7. Daniel Cadman 8. Kerry Hope 19. Danny Butler 10. Erick Ochieng *Unranked - Carl Froch (WBC World Champion) *Unranked - Brian Magee (IBF World Challanger) Middleweight (160lbs) Champion: Darren Barker (British) Mandatory: Vacant 1. Martin Murray (Commonwealth) 2. Patrick Mendy 4. Nick Blackwell (English) 5. Matt Hainy 6. Tony Hill 7. Billy Joe Saunders 8. Liam Cameron 9. Kevin Concepcion 10. Kurt Bromberg *Unranked - Matthew Macklin (World) *Unranked - Craig McEwan (World) *Unranked - Howard Eastman (World) Light Middleweight (154lbs) Champion: Sam Webbe Mandatory: Prince Aaron 1. Max Maxwell 2. Brian Rose 3. Neil Sinclair 4. Joe Selkirk 5. Martin Concepcion 6. Brett Flournoy 7. Joe McNally 8. Steve O'Meara 9. Alex Matvienko 10. Nathan Graham *Unranked - Ryan Rhodes (World) Welterweight (147lbs) Champion: Craig Waton Mandatory: Vacant 1. Michael Jennings 2. Colin Lynnes 3. John O’Donnell 4. Denton Vassel (Commonwealth) 5. Junior Witter 6. Kevin McIntyre (Celtic) 7. Bradley Pryce 8. Lee Purdy 9. Gary McMillian 10. Michael Lomax *Unranked - Kell Brook (WBO No.1) *Unraked - Matthew Hatton (WBC World Challanger) Light Welterweight (140lbs) Champion: Ashely Theophane (British) Mandatory: Vacant 1. Lenny Daws 2. Jason Cook 3. Frankie Gavin 4. Steve Williams 5. Barry Morrison 6. Peter McDonough 7. Tyrone Nurse 8. Curtis Woodhouse 9. Karl Place 10. Dean Harrison *Unranked - Amir Khan (WBA World Champion) *Unranked - Paul McCloskey (WBA World Challanger) *Unranked - Ajose Olusegun (World) Lightweight (135lbs) Champion: Anthony Crolla Mandatory: Gavin Rees 1. Kevin Mitchell 2. Lee McAllister (Commonwealth) 3. Nigel Wright 4. Alex Arthur 5. Willie Limmond 6. John Watson 7. Martin Gethin (English) 8. Derry Matthews 9. Ryan Brawley 10. Gary McArthur *Unranked - John Murray (European) Super Featherweight (130lbs) Champion: Gary Skykes Mandatory: Carl Johanesson 1. Gary Buckland 2. Liam Walsh (Commonwealth) 3. Andy Morris 4. Paul Truscott 5. Paul Appleby 6. Kevin O'Hara 7. John Kays 8. Troy James 9. James Ancliff 10. Stephen Ormond *Unranked - Ricky Burns (WBO World Champion) *Unranked - Stephen Foster Jnr (European) Featherweight (125lbs) Champion: John Smith Mandatory: Stephen Smith (Commonwealth) 1. Martin Lindsay 2. Ricky Owen 3. Chris Male 4. Joe Murray 5. Ryan Walsh 6. Terry Flannigan 7. Lee Selby 8. Del Rogers 9. Mickey Convey 10. Martin Ward Super Bantamweight (122lbs) Champion: Jason Booth Mandatory: Scott Quigg 1. Jamie Arthur 2. Kris Hughes 3. Carl Frampton (Celtic) 4. Rhys Roberts 5. Gavin Ried 6. Josh Wale 7. Robbie Turley 8. Mark Moran 9. Davey Savage Jnr 10. Paul Economides *Unraked - Rendall Munroe (World) Bantamweight (118lbs) Champion: Stuart Hall Mandaotry: Vacant 1. Ian Napa 2. Gary Davies 3. Craig Lyon (English) 4. Michael Walsh 5. Martin Power 6. Kid Galahad 7. Matthew Edmonds 8. Ross Burkinshaw 9. 10. *Unranked - Jame McDonnell (European & Commonwealth) Super Flyweight (115lbs) Champion: Lee Haskins (Commonwealth) Mandatory: Vacant 1. Andy Bell 2. John Donnelly 3. Don Broadhurst 4. Jamie Conlan 5. Delroy Spencer 6. Francis Croes 7. 8. 9. 10. Flyweight (112lbs) Champion: Paul Edwards Mandatory: Shinny Bayaar 1. Ashley Sexton (English) 2. Chris Edwards (Commonwealth) 3. Luke Wilton 4. Usman Ahmed 5. Kevin Colgan 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.
Here is Boxing-Ireland.com's ratings. [url]http://www.boxing-ireland.com/20100923_irish_weight_rankings_sept_2010_15.html[/url] New ones coming out in the first week of March. The BUI aint got a website let alone ratings so we rathered some of Irish boxing's most knowledgable reporters and everyone has a vote - those votes are correlated and bingo - ratings!
You know what, sometimes rob, you are a knob, but sometimes you are a genius. Your rankings are great, good effort mate!
I don't like the fact that if the BBBoC do have a ratings system that they don't publish them. It leaves them open to suspicion and allegations of corrruption. I for one don't think the BBBoC are suspect but such an arcane approach is completely out of touch with the reality of boxing in 2011.
Well out of interest will you start ranking Paul smith as a middleweight once he's had a fight at middle?
once he has had a fight at 160 or at least close to I will move him back down. Probably behind Martin Murray unless he fights someone spectacular or gets beat.
I actually voted Frankie ahead of Dean in those ratings but others didnt - some did. In fact there was only a couple of points between the pair when all the votes were tallied up - 125 to 122. So far about half the votes are in and its equal between the two - 74-74.