The Greatest Middleweight Puncher Of All Time

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  1. BUMPY KNUCKLES

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    So who was the greatest Middleweight puncher of all time ? So many to choose from...

    These names come to mind Ive never seen a Stanley Ketchel fight personally but Ive heard storys of him knocking down Heavyweights ?

    Stanley Ketchel ?
    Sugar Ray Robinson ?
    Thomas Hearns ?
    Julian Jackson ?
     
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  2. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    jackson/hearns
     
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  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    fitzsimmons
     
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  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    artie levine, eduardo lausse and jock mcavoy were all bangers
     
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  5. Swarmer

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    Career MW's i'd say Ketchel tho.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jackson.
     
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  7. PowerPuncher

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    Accuracy? Speed? Power? If you want it all Jones Jr, Robinson rates very high but perhaps his power didnt carry up quite as well. McClellan early is 1 of the biggest and has great speed/power too.
     
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  8. BUMPY KNUCKLES

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    But considering the oppositon can you decisivley put him above Ketchel or Robinson ?
     
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  9. Manassa

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    In all honesty it could be Eduardo Lausse. Or it could be someone like Freddie Steele. Ray Robinson has to rate in the top three; consensus says he's the second greatest puncher ever, and he didn't lose that much sting from 147lbs, in my opinion.
     
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  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Ketchel and Jackson in my opinion.....
     
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  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For sheer power Cyclone Hart has to be up there. Hell, I'd take Rodrigo Valdez over a lot of the men being mentioned.
     
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    Valdez was monstrous - one thing, though - wasn't much of a body puncher. I feel a lot of great middleweights would fear the headhunter but defend themselves well, not having to worry about protecting the ribs.
     
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    Lausse looks awesome on film.
    Wonder how good Langford was at the weight?
    Fitz , Choynski?
     
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  14. Lobotomy

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    Fitz, then Ketchel. Fitz broke a man's wrist with a blocked punch, and took the heavyweight title on a single body shot. Blew out a streaking Ruhlin in six while weighing 158, nearly forty pounds lighter than the 6'2" Akron Giant. Wiped out Sharkey in two for their Coney Island rematch, an utterly unique achievement.


    Ketchel dropped Johnson with a single right hand. Sucker punch? That argument has been made, but still, he did it to a defensive master who outweighed him by at least over 35 pounds (probably more). Ketchel later came in at 156 for Willie Lewis.
     
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  15. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    L, you read my mind ! Bob Fitz, was a freak of nature.At 160 lbs, he knocked cold lt heavies and heavyweights,while he was in his prime. He was a strong heavy.weight above the waist, but a welter below with his pipe-stem legs.Fitz was called a "fighting machine on stilts ",for good reason.He targeted every vulnerable part of his opponents.
    Stanley Ketchell was regarded by virtually every boxing expert as the best and hardest puncher @ 160 pounds..A fighting demon who burnt himself out, by the time he was killked at 24 years old.in 1909 Ketchell kod the great lightheavy Phil. Jack O'Brien with a blow that deposited O'brien;s head in a rosin box and his feet in mid-air. He once kod O'brien before, but the last bell saved O'Brien before the 10 count. Ketchell had staying power.some fans today fail to realiuze that when Ketchell and Sam Langford met in 1910,Langford outweighed Ketchell by 10-15 pounds. A tremendous burden against any great fighter, including a Robinson, and any middleweight you can name, except one fighter i can think of..Cheers L:good
     
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