Pac has proven how overrated jumping weight classes are

Which of his last fights was berto available for?

Id like berto after mosely and jmm

 

Berto could/should have replaced Mosley
Now I'm not sure if he was available to replace Margarito or not

 

Easy? He has the speed to Box those slower guys and outwork them.But when he gets hit he gets busted ear drum or spends a day or two in a fetal position from a body shot..

When you're born with speed and power you will always have the speed and power, so moving up in weight and adding weight does not effect you that much,unless you're sitting on your arse and doing nothing you won't lose that much speed and power.

Besides Pac was fighting 140 plus fight night when he was campaigning at 130 the speed and power were only down slightly..

:?

 

So.... this ENTIRE content is on style matching w/ miscellaneous fighters....

What does this gotta do with how Pacquiao has proven that jumping weight is over-rated?

 

Ya I would have preferred berto myself. Young and fast, & out of the 3 was my top pick, with mosely last..

Hope Berto wins his next fight(s) , Id like to see that match up.

 

I know for a FACT that these same Pacman haters would've bashed Pacman for fighting Berto. They would've said he was green, he was not "slick", he wasn't elite, etc. etc. This is what happens when someone has so much success that the only thing these haters can do is nitpick every little thing to try to justify the hate.

 

:thumbsup I agree also. It's a contrast to his previous opponents. Plus if you're going to collect belts at different weight classes, why not unify the one you already at

 

Not true at all. I personally wanted Marquez at 140, but if Pac was staying at 147 then give me Berto.
Fast
Powerful
Good right hand
Undefeated weleterweight who has a belt

 

History for the casual dont care for details.. Why not go for it whilst you are able to and cash in on it bigtime :smoke

I Can see why they done it, I would. I hope he does try to unify like Donaire. And just stay at 147 unless he takes on martinez at the higher weight !:.

 

Fuk the haters, the majority of people will see a good fight :bbb

haters missing out again

 

You're right. I never in a million years would have expected Pacquiao to beat Oscar, Hatton, Cotto, and Margarito... in 2008. Back then they were different fighters. Back then I would have expected that they would be at their best.

It's time for a little perspective. Let's take it back to the fall of 2008, before Pacquiao vs. Oscar.

De La Hoya

Before the fight, we all knew that DLH was getting long in the tooth (i.e. old). We knew that he had to make a weight that he hadn't seen in about a decade. We saw the decline, and the slowing of his speed. I don't know about you but personally I picked Pac over DLH because I knew that the weight would be a huge factor. Consider the IV marks and the fact that Pac weighed in heavier than Oscar and the wonderous accomplishment, seems a little less wonderful.


Hatton

It was after Floyd beat Hatton but before Lazcano and Malignaggi. We thought Hatton would/could come back. He lost to the best fighter in the world, and who doesn't look bad against Floyd, right? Anyway, Hatton had a new trainer that could possibly give him the skills he lacked. However, once we saw the Lazcano fight, we had our doubts. I messed up and picked Hatton to win, but I had hoped I'd see something different out of Hatton.


Cotto

This was after Marg beat Cotto, but before we saw the physical and psychological damage that Margo and his bricks did to him. This was before we knew anything about bricks at all.

Then, when he had lackluster performances against Jennings and Clottey, we understood. Factor in the bricks evidence, and throw in the 145 catch-weight and I'd say that it is safe to say that Cotto was not the same man that he was in mid 2008.


Margo

Margarito was on top of the world, coming off his most impressive win ever! He had just beaten the crap out of Cotto (with bricks) and looked to be on top of the world. Fast forward about 2 years and he has been suspended for cheating by using loaded gloves, making us question all of his wins and especially the Cotto victory.

This was before Mosley stopped him and before his 14 month vacation. Come fight time, he is suspended, and he looked like absolute crap in his Mexican comeback fight against nobody we'd ever heard of, or would likely hear from again. With the Mosley stomping still fresh in our minds, Marg was not who we thought he was. Don't forget that we had another catch-weight.

Roach said, "I saw your last two fights?" Well, we hadn't yet.



So maybe in mid 2008 we would have never imagined Pac jumping weight, taking on, and beating the 4 guys (Clottey doesn't count) that he beat. However in 2008 these 4 guys were very different than they are, or were when Pacquiao faced them. In 2008, and even now on paper the accomplishment looks like a game winning, half court shot at the buzzer in game 7 of the NBA finals. In reality it was more like a game winning 3 pointer at the buzzer in a regular season game.

 

Wow I didnt know pac was that bad at boxing, all these weight drained ova the hill, ivy mark wearing motherfkrs.

These mofo that got losses and mentality fkd and ****.

You make soo much sense. thank you

So why does pac have to run from bloodtest again? , its in ur sig, please explain

 

That's why Oscar was a huge underdog in Vegas, right?

 

Darchinyan, Pavlik and JMM comes to mind.

 

Imn how many of them did you pick Pacman?