Pac has proven how overrated jumping weight classes are

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PC: Was coming down to 145 tougher than you thought it would be since you hadn’t weighed 145 or less since 2006?

MC: I felt really good at that weight. It wasn’t a problem for me.

 

Jumping weight divisions is very overrated especially in this era where there are so many divisions. Plenty of elite fighters not just pac have proved that in recent years.

De La Hoya, Pac, Mosley, Hopkins, Jones Jr and Toney have all made jumping multiple weight divisions look easy. There was a time when top fighters winning titles at 3 different weights was seen as a great acheivement now it's the norm.

The sheer number of weight divisions and the proliferation of titles has made it easier to win titles at multiple weights by avoiding the best in a higher division and still pick up a title against a weak or stylistically easy opppnent. Look at Mayweathers welterweight resume to see proof of that and he's not the only one to do this.

 

Actually, they were past it, when Pac fought them. They'd both been brutally KO'd and made to look average by B and C class fighters, before they stepped in with Pac. About two years prior is when they were looking like monsters.

Really? :huh

 

i'm calling it, ***** is ducking the Klits.

 

why will pac fight on high risk/low reward? floyd fights the best with medium-high risk and high reward, but no criticism?

 

newsflash: pacquiao is currently more proven at welterweight than floyd is.

 

In that case by your reasoning, Pac has been past it since Torrecampo and Singsurat who both brutally KO'd him. So Pac became an 8 weight champ despite being past it for most of his career.

 

Casamayor was the champion at 135 in that timeframe.

 

jaguar, pac that fought jorge solis or barrera (2nd), granted you only know about that version of pac.. would you bet your house on him beating the versions of cotto, hatton, clottey, and margo that pac actually fought?

 

Not really...but...I'll play along...

Pac was stopped early in his career by those guys. He got better over time. Cotto was beaten bloody by the brick laden (allegedly) hands of Margarito, at the peak of his career. Margarito nearly got his head knocked off by Mosley, at the peak of his career...then forced to be inactive for a year after. Big difference.

They just were not the same fighters they were perceived to be, before these things occurred, when Pac fought them. But, they were still game and somewhat dangerous fighters, at that time. That's based on observing them before those career altering losses and after.

 

If its so easy why don't you do it?

 

Wow I guess Pac's so good it makes people think weight jumping is a piece of cake.

 

it is so easy.

Mayweather actually did it. From 130 to 154 and he is till rocking.

But he has bigger head now!

 

He might not be superman but he is the best there is by far

 

I don't know why Pac is running from blood tests. Personally I never thought that Pac used PEDs and I still don't think he does. However the way he has handled the OSDT issue makes him look very suspicious. Throughout history men have been accused of crimes that they didn't commit. I always use Armstrong as an example. He is to cycling what Pac is to boxing. They accused him, he pissed in the cup and gave blood, and proved them all wrong. Pac makes excuses, double talks, and lies, and then doesn't take the tests. IMO that is cowardly. Face your accuser and prove him wrong. But Manny won't. That's why I call him Pussyao.

The fighters that Pac has beaten were great fighters, however their records and/or the circumstances leading up to the fight were less than favorable for Pac's opponents.

All but Hatton. I thought that at 140, and with new, better skill set (he looked good on 24/7), that Ricky might do it. He failed, miserably. However DLH, Cotto, Clottey, and Cheato? I picked all of them to lose.

Size doesn't matter to me. When I was boxing, I couldn't always get heavyweight sparring, so I spent a lot of time sparring some of the LHW and even a couple of SMW in my gym. These smaller guys were blazing fast and even though they didn't have the power to knock me out, their movement and the constant barrage of punches made for an easy round to score. So Pac's "he big I little" means diddly. There's the chance that Cotto/Clottey/Marg might have landed a huge shot and knocked the smaller dude out, but from experience, that isn't easy, and with Pac's speed, it wasn't likely. IMO it is easier for a smaller guy to beat a slower, bigger guy than for a smaller guy to fight and beat a guy of the same size and speed.

The mental toughness, and mental preparedness is so important for a fighter. When you take that away, it's like losing the first 2 rounds. Cotto was a basket case after the Marg beatdown. Marg coming off a suspension and without his precious plaster, he knew he was done. Clottey was the only one that seemed to have a decent head going into this thing, but he appeared to be just happy to be there and to collect the paycheck.

Just because some folks thought he would win, or felt that Hatton/Cotto was too much for Pac doesn't mean squat. What were Vegas odds? Post those up.

I'm not sure I understand the question. Knowing what I know about the circumstances leading up to the fight, I would have bet my house that Pac beats Cotto and Margarito under the circumstances. I would have bet that Pac beat Clottey when Pac was fighting at featherweight. :hi: