Tactics and cornermen

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by avidlemon, Feb 27, 2011.


  1. avidlemon

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    I had the privellage of watching the foster jnr fight from ringside last night. Fegatilli fought a great fight, and performed better than many thought he would and certainly punched harder than his record suggested he could.
    However, I thought some of the tactics employed by team foster were rather baffling. Fosters defence consisted of back off the the ropes, bend over and let fegatilli pound away to the body. And then also as foster was backing off he employed no head movement and no lateral movement. Now I can understand that sometimes a boxer can be under so much pressure that some things they do are not done using their full ring intelligence. But the corner men surely earn their corn by spotting these things and rectifying them in between rounds. Why were they not encouraging foster to get in his bike stay away from the hurtful body shots and keep his head up?! A few small adjustments and tactical changes could have made it at least a closer fight.
    I think the cornermen have to shoulder some of the blame for his performance. Surely they could see what foster was doing was losing him the fight? Or am I wrong and should foster have figured this himself? Or from another point of view did fegatilli fighting the way he was make it impossible for the fight to go any other way?
    IMO foster took unnecessary shots all night long that he didn't need to. We see examples of good cornermen all the time, roach, and our very own rob mckraken. Calm good tactical advice, that appeared to be lacking for foster.
    Thoughts guys?
     
  2. I thought there were too many voices in the corner as well. I'm not sure how a fighter can take in clear instructions when he's got 2 blokes shouting different things to him.
     
  3. wrimc

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    Ringside eh? Very fancy! :tong
     
  4. DCM

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    Foster was ill. He was weak and he had nothing in the tank from round 4 onwards, I can assure you that the sitting on the ropes/shoulder rolling was not tactics, it was merely someone who was exhausted and was in survival mode. That corner was as good as you'll see in a British ring, they have more than 70 years experience between them and all 3 have been champions. The Foster in there was a shell of his usual self and people should give him the benefit of the doubt, he had problems in the build up and then a virus on the week of the fight, he should of pulled out!!!
     
  5. avidlemon

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    It was great mate. Never been ringside before. Sat next to Craig Watson for a bit. Genuine nice guy, told me next fight could potentially be for a euro shot
     
  6. GPater11093

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    He has basic fundamental flaws that were exploited a wee bit, a leaky defence to right hands and poor footwork.

    Ill or not, these would have been exploited. He is a front foot fighter and struggled to adapt when placed on the back foot.
     
  7. DCM

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    I agree with you on the fundamental flaws mate but a fully fit Foster would of been too strong for him and wouldn't of been on the back foot.
     
  8. avidlemon

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    Look, if he was ill then he should have pulled out. 70 years experience between trainers? Maybe all that experience should have told them that their man shouldn't have been fighting if he wasn't up to it on the night, taking into account the magnitude of the fight and the possible effect it was going to have on his future career!
    Foster may not be the best going backwards, and be more of a front foot fighter, but surely once you've been dropped by repeated attack to the body, you're corner do what they can to get you out of that situation going forward in the fight? I suppose a fighters instincts need to kick in but the corner men are there to keep the fighter safe, and advise tactically to win the fight. This being ill business. Well he might have been, but then don't fight, put it off!
    The cornermen are more to blame than I oringinally thought!
     
  9. DCM

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    And how would of you felt if Foster would of pulled out this week having bought yourself a ringside ticket? Foster went ahead with the fight for the likes of you who spent your money to watch him. It's easy to look back and say he should of pulled out but it's a difficult decision with a lot of pressure. He didn't want to let the fans down but also he didn't want to let Ricky down who is a good friend, Ricky got him the European shot when he was the forgotten man of boxing and maybe Foster felt like he owed him a bit. What exactly is your history of being in a ring because you clearly don't know the game....
     
  10. wrimc

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    Avid did you see the Robin Reid fight? How did he look?
     
  11. avidlemon

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    Dcm. Look firstly, whats my history of being in a ring got to do with anything?
    I understand all the things you are saying about not letting people down, and that I've paid for my ticket etc. I am actually taking that into account when saying what I say. Why jeopardise your own career potentially for the sake of satisfying me you or anyone else? I like foster and am not trying to discredit him or slag him. I was rooting for him.
    You really let yourself down with your comment at the end of your post
     
  12. avidlemon

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    I walked in there during the 3rd round. He looked a bit laboured tbh, but in decent shape. Worried about him in prizefighter tbh
     
  13. wrimc

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    Ye im a bit worried myself tbh i just hope he gives a good account of himself the man was a really good fighter in his prime. You going to be going to the Prizefighter at Olympia?
     
  14. avidlemon

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    Very good chAnce I wil be attending!
     
  15. obi 1 ko

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    Nothing about knowing the game , its about being down right selfish and thinking about ya self .

    F the fans , F the promoter , cos they dont care about ya one bit .

    Today he has nothing and if he was able to make that decision now he would probaby take it .
    Its about money first and foremost , wonder how many fans are gonna be a paying his bills .
    Still think weight was the issue , but my opinion only .