Manny Pacquiaos So Called Improvements: Careful Matchmaking?

No one wanted to take the test :deal

7 days il accept :good

 

as usual, you are full of denial. cotto and clottey both had quick jabs. cotto has one of the best in the game. cotto had beaten mosley while on the backfoot. some people gave mosley the last rounds but cotto effetively boxed and fend mosley in route to a clear decision win.

it's the same old story from me but we know you are like a broken record when it comes to jmm's fight. to you, jmm has not lost a fight except the floyd fight which be too hard for you to twist. i would be surprised if you scored jmm-floyd 5 rounds to 7 when you are wearing a jmm's goggles.

are you denying that jmm struggled against casa, juan diaz and katsidis before stopping them?

 

maybe I missed it, where did you say pac improved?

whats roids is pac on ne ways ? name it please so I can look it up :hat

 

Ya wel cry in our sleep for pacquiao

ohh paquiao why havent you improved??

why did they rank you p4p #1 all these years???

why fighter of the decade!?!? :|:|

why you scare the best inthe world into a vacation?? why :|

 

Marquez lost 13 rounds out of 12 with Mayweather. :rofl Roided Pac KOs Mayweather. Imagine what he will do with Marquez.

 

Is this for real? :huh

The rematch was a close fight, got no problem if you'll claim that JMM took
it, clearly or whatever, but to say schooling shows you're being too biased
in favor of JMM. BTW, I scored it in favor of JMM, i think he's 1 round ahead.

Anyway on topic, i have to say there's improvement, he's less careless
for one. Also, his power on both hands are becoming more evident,
wether it has to do with the type of opponent or the fact
that he isnt dehydrating himself that i dont know.
Also, I feel the rematch with JMM actually did a positive thing to him
because that made him realized that offense with abandon will get him
to trouble esp with good counterpunchers.

I would love to see him against Bradley @140lbs - a fast, young and
undefeated fighter (so that for once we will not see the usual excuses,
eg slow, old, ruined, past it etc.). JMM could also be interesting
but im afraid that he's already past it based on his last few fights
(except the floyd fight for obvious reasons) and besides he's not proven
at 140. Berto @ 147 is also good.

I'd favor pac to win over them but if these fights doesnt happen
im not gonna whine about it thou.

 

...Clottey IS a defensive counter-puncher. ...Very...very...very defensive sometimes.

 

Pac has improved since JMM, his actual skills are at a high, he uses movement better, and has developed into a more than solid counter-puncher coupled with his aggression. He has also developed both hands to where his right can hurt even tough fighters like Margarito. His stamina has also improved to where he's able to throw a decent bit more volume since he isn't cutting weight anymore. And his matchmaking isn't particularly careful by any reasonable standard, his list of wins in two years at Welterweight far outstrips any competition over Floyd's time at Welter. The problem is that Pacquiao has gotten so good that pretty much the only realistic matches that he might could make where he stands a decent chance of losing in the fans eyes now are Floyd and Martinez, so anything else is disappointing. Floyd is on his "vacation" and might see jail time. Martinez he could fight, but if he's wanting the Floyd fight, Martinez is a huge risk for that fight. So Pacquiao is staying semi-active with the aging Mosley while hoping to make a fight with Floyd after that is my theory. I'm not thrilled with the fight, but I'd rather see it than have him not fight at all, and at least Mosley has a puncher's chance. Somebody like Bradley would have no chance at all.

But ultimately, what it boils down to is this with top Welterweight matchmaking over the past few years.

Pacquiao has fought Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and will fight Mosley.
Cotto has fought Clottey, Margarito, Mosley, and Pacquiao.
Margarito has fought Clottey, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, and Pacquiao.
Clottey has fought Margarito, Cotto, and Pacquiao.
Mosley has fought Cotto, Margarito, Mayweather, and will fight Pacquiao.

Mayweather has fought Mosley.

One of these is not like the others.

 

pac has already fought and dominated 3 of the top 5 welters of the last 5 years (cotto, clottey, margo). he's fighting the 4th in mosley this coming May. after mosley, the last and only remaining top 5 welter is mayweather.

tell me... who is better than these 5 guys @147?

not exactly careful matchmaking against welterweights, is it?

 

I don't care about reality.
My agenda is right - it is careful matchmaking!!!

So STFU!

 

Matches w/ dela Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito are careful matchmaking? How can that be when almost all boxing pundits say he will lose to these fighters. Almost everybody said,"Pacquiao has not yet fought a fighter like Dela Hoya or Cotto". How the hell can one match a former flyweight against junior middleweight like dela Hoya and Mosley?

 

exavtly. *****s confuse themselves just to discredit pac. thats why when they bring up videos like this i just pay no attention.

 

so what is it *****s. is pac on peds or is he facing crap competition or is it both. i would really like to know.

 

We don't have to imagine, we've seen what he'll do with Marquez...have we not?

 

Listen, you'd have to know my history in this forum to know that I'm consistent in why and how I analyze things.......

When people were dismissing Marquez' chances in that Pacquiao rematch because it was pointed too that Pacquiao had made major improvements and was using both hands and fighting more controlled and less Kamakazee, I was in this very forum stating "the fact that Pacquiao has improved boxistically some and is fighting more controlled, that actually is going to play against him vs Marquez."
I went on to note that Pacquiao for whatever technical improvements he could make, could never match X's and O's vs a fighter like Marquez who's been studying at it his entire career.

Fighters like Marquez and Mayweather depend on cerebral wit and round to round adjustments.

Pacquiao does'nt make those adjustments within a round, so he cant even begin to match technical ability within a round.

I had said before the Pacquiao rematch, that because Pacquiao was now using his right hand alot more, that would open more avenues for Marquez to unleach his left hook.

If you study both Marquez-Pacquiao fights and the way they fought......you'll see that in fight 1, Marquez was repeatedly throwing his right hand.
Marquez threw that right hand alot more often in fight one, because he was taking advantage of the opening that Pacquiao was giving him to land that right hand.

If you take a look at the 2nd fight, you see Marquez using his left hand alot more than he did in the first fight.

In the 2nd fight, we saw Marquez use more of an array of shots and looking smoother than he did in fight one, and it was because Pacquiao was trying to match x's an o's against a fighter that was his superior.

Against a better x's and o's fighter, Pacquiao will always revert to comefoward brawling tactics. When he gets hit with combinations you will always see him pound his gloves together to signal his opponent, "stop the technicalities, lets fight."

I've been very consistent on my analysis of Pacquiao.
Boxisticallly he's improved, I was impressed in his MAB rematch that he refrained from going after MAB with more abandon.
What MAB was actually doing in that Pacquiao rematch was was moving to his own left, exactly how Marquez played it vs Pacquiao.
MAB however wanted to bait Pac into consistently advance at him so that he could get his jab going.

Pacquiao did'nt cooperate, and it was because Pacquiao had been well versed by Freddie Roach that this was the only way MAB could compete against him if he let him.

Pacquiao instead of advancing stood center ring and played chess with MAB.
Pacquiao was able to beat MAB in a chess match because all MAB had to offer in that fight was the left hand, and mostly in the form of a jab.

Once Pacquiao knows that a fighter is stricly going to do this, he's athletic and too fast not to take advantage.

People like to point to Pacquiao's demolitions as the fights they're most impressed of him.....

I was actually most impressed with Pacquiao's patience and ability to control the aggressiveness in himself that is what comes natural to him.

Pacquiao made MAB have to come to him, and MAB was'nt versatile enough to make the adjustment and reverse it and force Pacquiao to come to him.


......at the begginings of the Marquez rematch, you can see Pacquiao attempting to do replicate the same against Marquez that he did vs MAB.......

Pacquiao was patient and attempting with the patience to lure Marquez in with feints, just as he had done and was sucessful against MAB.........

Did'nt work!
There are two reasons why it did'nt work.

1. Marquez is more cerebral, he has more know how.
.....and

2. Marquez is more versatile both in shot selection and repertoire and positioning himself in the proper angles to get his shots off.

Pacquiao could not match wit's with Marquez. That lightning bolt of a left hand of his was the only thing that kept the fight in suspense, as Pacquiao proved he could strike unexpectedly with it at anytime.

Marquez or any fighter gets laxed about it because his own combinatiions are free flowing and he can do anything offensively he wishes with Pacquiao.....if Marquez or anyone is'nt razor sharp and alert that Pacquiao can strike with that bolt of a left, they'll find themselves on the canvas.

......but other that that left hand of Pacquiao's, if you diffuse and are in alert for it and you're an elite skill fighter, Pacquiao's yours!!!!dealdeal


Btw, for the *******s to comprehend.....I'm actually playing Pacquiao a compliment here......
There are not too many technically skilled elite fighters that have boxed Pacquiao's era, which makes Pacquiao one of the best of his era!:yep