Cassius Clay 1964 vs Muhammad Ali 66-67

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  1. SlyCoop

    SlyCoop Member Full Member

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    Put both versions in the ring together. who would win and why?

    I say Ali was at his fastest and at his most slippery in 64. But He was more experienced and stronger in 66-67.
     
  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The 1966/67 version of Ali had all the speed and slipperiness of his younger Clay self,plus a lot more seasoning. He was also physically stronger.
     
  3. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Cassius Clay of 1964 would be calling the 66/67 Muhammad Ali a 'draft-dodger',
    'a 'wife-beater' and 'religous fanatic', and 'anti-American'.
     
  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Elaborate,my friend !
     
  5. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    the slipperiest i ever saw him was against folley in 67 personally
     
  6. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Elaborate,

    If 'mental war-fare' was employed, the 66/67 Ali would say the 1964 Cassius Clay
    was owned by ''11' white businessmen.
     
  7. thegoldenera

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    ali 66 would beat
    by sd, but it would be close. clay 64 was very young,very fast , his legs were in his peak(speed) and he was hungry of victory. but the experience of ali 66-67 would be the key factor.
    i can´t see other fighter in the history winning against clay 64 the night in miami.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They would both be argueing about who was the prettiest !
     
  9. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Zaire Ali of '74 could pip the Cassius of ten years earlier,but he would n't beat his 1966/67 self. How big a margin do you think that the Kinshasa Ali would beat the 36 year old version who beat Leon Spinks in New Orleans ? This is getting really surreal :lol:
     
  10. SlyCoop

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    Lol. Clay-" He's to ugly to be the worlds champ, the worlds champ should be pretty like me"

    Ali - " Cassius Clay is nothing to me, this bum go over five rounds I won't return to the united states for 30 days.:yep
     
  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: :good "WE are the greatest....and prettiest of all time..."
     
  12. SlyCoop

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    :cheers
     
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    I think I'm tripping out here...
     
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    Ali 64 Ali 66-67 best versions of Ali.
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Your input is not required in threads involving Ali.