Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Feb 27, 2011.


  1. Boucher

    Boucher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fact is he ducked his standout challenger because, he said he," would not take a chance on losing his title to a black man, " what would you call that ,bravery?
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Misguided principle.

    The fact is that Jeffries had a harder early career than prety much any other heavyweight champion and whatever you can say against his resume no poster on this site is worthy to clean his spit bucket in boxing terms, much less criticise his bravery.

    Jack Johnson ducked his standout challenger for a much longer period, but I would never question his courage.
     
  3. Boucher

    Boucher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There are many kinds of courage ,and also cowardice.Jeffries was physically courageous , morally I don't think so.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm 100% sure it's an alias of a regular Classic forum poster.

    A mod could do an IP check.

    I don't want to spoil the joke for everybody though.

    If a mod could just PM me the info? Because curiosity is keeping this cat up at night, and might kill me. Because insomnia is now lethal.
     
  5. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    i seriously think eslubin is his own person. funnily enough i saw his videos before he ever joined while looking up jeffries sharkey
     
  6. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    it's not their fault my friend, that ***** Gaye refuses to sign the damn contract.
     
  7. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    yes swarmer....a 170ish middleweight from 1 century ago would beat a 250ish HW with good chin and good power.
    There's a reason why we have weigh classes...and a 5ft.7 middleweight could do nothing against a 6ft.4 250lbs HW.
     
  8. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    eslubin I want you to make a video of Arreola vs. Jack Johnson in Fire Pro
     
  9. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    False. Johnson lost plenty of rounds, including many to tier two types of heavies.
     
  10. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I don't see anyone arguing with the facts I presented. To do so in this forum would be blasphemy.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cowardice - lack of courage in facing danger, pain, or difficulty. By definition he can be called a coward
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Only the Classic's resident memember of the Aryan Brotherhood would ask this. Lets see:

    1. Forced to make his way because of his race in fighting the degrading battle royals - yes what a great time to be born in

    2. Frozen out against the top white fighters because of his race for several years - yes born at the right time

    3. The World Champion is allowed to duck him because of his race

    4. In his biggest fight he is racially abused by the crowd

    5. Chased out of the country and made a criminal because of his race, yep clearly born in the ideal historical time
     
  13. Boucher

    Boucher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Delusions of divinity?:patsch
     
  14. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    Why he never fought Gunboat Smith?
    Smith was for 2 years the top white HW and nr 1 contender with wins over the likes of langford Willard Morris and Moran; he also kayoed JJ in sparring.
    If the public was so eager to see Johnson losing the title to a white man, why didn't the promoters make this fight happen?...after all Ed Gunboat was considered the white HW champion and made JJ look very bad in sparring
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Classy.