Did Jack Johnson benefit from being born at the right time?

I agree that Mendoza has a pale, pasty, skinny ***** and that its made him bitter.

But maybe you could argue that his situation is what drove him to accomplish what he did. He certainly seems like the type of character that hardships would make him stronger, rather than fold and defeat him. Not what Mendoza was suggesting mind

 

Smith's form only held for a year.
Moran had beaten no one of note when he fought Smith he improved markedly later.
Langford ? Many thought Langford won their fight and there is also some speculation Sam had the hand cuffs on.
Morris was being beat by just about every one at the time.
Willard was a near novice when Smith beat him.
Smith, according to a taped interview he gave in 1972,did NOT ko Johnson he put him halfway through the ropes of the Seal Rock House's ring whilst Johnson was sparring to fight Ketchel.

 

So a man who fights his profesional dubut in a 15 round fight, against the eras equivalent of Ray Austin, then goes on to take on the best contenders of the era after only a few profesional fights, is lacking in courage in facing danger, pain, or difficulty?

I don't think so.

 

That is physical courage.
How about the courage to do what is right,to swim against the tide, simply because you know in your heart it is the right thing to do?
By the way Jim Corbett ,and John L Sullivan both thought Jeffries courage failed him immediately prior to the Johnson fight.
Corbett said he went into a shell and was unnerved.
Sullivan said he gave him a pep talk the day before the fight saying ,"everyone hates a quitter."
Brady, Jeffries former manager said he allways lacked confidence, even betting against himself in the first Fitzsimmons fight.
Brady cooked up the well known ruse of Jeffries manhandling the unprepared Fitz in a dispute about a clean break ,he did it to boost Jeffries, flagging confidence.

 

No way...

I'm thankful that Tomasz Adamek has moved up in weight and shown that despite coming up from LHW he can still be effective because of his skills.


Spinks, Jones Jr, Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, Langford, Conn, McVea, Fitzsimmons would have beaten Arreola.

 

I agree.

 

Agreed.

Johnson was, if nothing else, a bad ass with more sack than almost any sporting hero I can think of. My arguments regarding his status have zero to do with this attribute.

I don't get the cowardice angle.

 

Prime maybe yes.....but not the green 150lbs Langford that fought Johnson.

I'll comfortably take Arreola over the guys whor fought Johnson for his title.

 

Langford was not green he had over 50 fights under his belt when he fought Johnson, he was the more experienced of the two.
Langford weighed 156lbs for their fight Johnson 185lbs, So both were under their optimum weights Langford by about 20 -25 lbs Johnson by 20lbs. But you keep repeating the same old crap :good

 

You forgot to add ,Johnson was on the floor screaming for mercy and his "MANGER" had to drag him to his feet , and rescue him.
But that's what good MANGERS are for.:good