The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Unless that lie is challenged and exposed as just a lie.

All pac had to do was take the 14 day test. And we would have had a better fight than pac v clottey in march.

 

He believes it imo.

Floyd would of had to of known Manny was going to reject the OST if the assertions people were making are true, that he never really wanted the fight, he obviously thinks Manny is taking something, well, he's not prepared to fight him without knowing for sure it seems.

 

How would floyd know pac would reject testingatsch

Considering nearly any other boxer has gone on record to say they wouldn't have a problem with getting tested, i repeat how would floyd have known manny would reject testing. Roach had already gone on record saying they would take any testing. He even mentioned a 7 day window.

Now we have to point out again, that floyd asked for up to the day testing, manny rejecting that ok could be seen as a reasonable excuse as it may be to close to fight.

If floyd wanted an excuse he would have not even budged. Yet as we know, he did, he went up to 14 days testing. Pac still refused. He wanted 28 days or 24.

Now surely these are not the actions of a guy who didn't want to fight and was looking for an excuse. How do you go from day of testing to 14 days of testing?

Doesn't sound like someone looking for an excuse, does it?

 

Floyd recently said this, vs morales he did blood testing and lost and then he didnt do it and knocked him out twice, I think he believes it a little bit but mainly wants to have a clear edge on pac, even though he already has that with style and size yet he wants to have as many advantages as possible, thats why I always think floyd is insecure because he doesnt believe in himself even 10% of how his fans do.

 

I dont get what your point is, are you agreeing with what I said? cause I was pretty much saying what you said.

 

floyd believes it more so now, because of the way pac camp handled the situation. During the first round of negotiations it was his father and Schafer behind the scenes who were saying pac should get tested. Floyd went along with it and ran with it especially after pac denied the 14 day window and went on to fight clottey.

 

Do you agree that floyd really believed pac was on drugs after the marquez fight leading up to negotiations mid december? Because i don't.

It was senior and schafer who started all this.

In november 2009 floyd never mentioned any accusations against pac being on peds.


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He's definitely apprehensive about fighting him, no question about that, but I didn't question his desire to fight at the time the OST thing first came up, that might of changed now, as Manny seems to be more flexible regarding that.

I agree with you that Mayweather is always looking for an advantage, as he does not have full confidence in himself.

Mayweather was willing to marginalize the small amount of props he would of got from beating Marquez by making sure he had even more of advantage than what he already had, by doing what he did at the weigh in. Marquez -Mayweather was already of a joke of a fight, but he threw any potential props out the window right there, simply cause he does not believe in himself enough.

Fighters are regularly, week in week out, agreeing to the testing procedures Mayweather is unwilling to, which says it all about his confidence.

Maybe its as you said, Mayweather doesn't believe he is taking them, but wants an advantage cause he's not 100% confident, you could be right.

 

What point are you arguing against specifically? I dont get where your coming from with this, are u saying you dont think Floyd thought he was on PED, that it was a smoke screen, if so what makes you say this?

 

I don't think floyd believed pac was on peds at the start of negotiations.

After marquez fight, floyd was already preparing to fight pac hence both camps started talking. However behind the scenes schafer and sr started saying pac was on drugs and he should be tested.

Floyd was like alright we will get him tested. Now when roach said they would do any testing it seemed fight was on. But then pac camp didn't like who was testing and the randomness of it. Then we got the whole drama about to close to the fight.

Just imagine what the mayweather camp must have been saying to floyd when the pac camp started back tracking on testing. "I told you he was on drugs he doesn't want to take the tests".

Floyd later went from day of the fight to 14 day window, pac refused and fought clottey instead at that moment i think floyd beiieved pac was hiding something.

 

Why can't it get through your brain that not agreeing to a Floyd demand doesn't automatically mean the other party is guilty of using PEDs? Can't you think of other reason why the other guy will not agree to a Floyd demand?

There are very few of you here who still cannot understand that not everyone can be bullied into agreeing to a Floyd demand.

 

You don't read to well do you.

I referenced a quote another poster posted. I simply showed his quote was flawed in this case as to evaporate such a lie all pac had to do was take the tests. His personal feelings bare no relevance to the quote at hand.

 

But do you think his using the OST, was a declaration that he didn't want the fight? cause I think that is the issue here.

Given that you said it was Mayweather sr and Schafer who made him suspicious, when he was apparently willing to fight Manny without OST, before their accusations, that would say he did want the fight, right? that even with the OST, he still wanted the fight, right?

I still dont get the point your making, I mean I dont want to make you pick sides, but where are you coming for on this, do you support Floyd's actions or Manny's, or neither?

 

Yep, only an idiot would disagree with this otherwise their opinion is flawed and biased.

 

Mayweather was willing at the start to fight manny without drug testing, he just fought marquez without one.

It was snr and schafer who encouraged floyd to ask for extra testing, floyd ran with it.

You ask do i support floyd actions of extra testing, yes i do, can't see a problem with it, both fighters will be taking it.

But the thread title states does floyd really believe pac is on PEDS?

My point was that NO he didn't at the beginning of negotiations straight after marquez fight.

But YES he did after pac camp started acting all funny about it, the final straw was refusing the 14 day window floyd offered to make the fight.

So to recap yes he does believe pac is on peds because of the way he has acted to the drug tests being proposed. But no he didn't believe he was on drugs when the fight was first publicly mentioned. You just have to look at his interview with SKY.