LATEST: UPDATE: 99.99% DONE Haye Crawling Back To Wladimir - July 2nd Looks To Be On!

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  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem is, by the time comes around, he could be fighting a guy with no belt and additional losses for the exact same money as if they were undisputed champion. That's not exactly fair, no matter how you look at it.

    It's not fair on the fans either. Although the Polish posters on here are that frustrating, I don't really care if they get ripped off.
     
  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Haha, no worries man. Anyway, I know you're not in the cult of Klitschko - you're the guy brewing the cool aid! :lol:

    Take it easy
     
  3. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    well Adamek and his group thought it was a good idea and deal:deal
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Jack, get a grip man. Adamek signed the deal, hell Adamek pursued the deal.

    We all know the risks of signing to fight a champ when they have an interim bout. Adamek especially knew the risks. He obviously feels either brother will still be champ, or worst case scenario, either brother will be his biggest test to date.

    either way he wanted the deal, he got the deal, what's the problem?
     
  5. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    well said:good
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    good lord man belt or not belt that is a HUGE money fight in Europe either way. Huge. These belts DO NOT mean **** what means **** is BIG FIGHTS and Haye refuses to make them. Good lord man do you even watch Boxing or do you just watch Frauds like Khan and Haye?

    Boxing is about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ always has been and always will be. It will NEVER change. Props to Adamek for being willing to fight EITHER Klitschko something Haye is scared to do. :lol::rofl
     
  7. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The problem is, Adamek signed for September and it's looking likely a Haye fight will happen in between that. We all know Haye is the biggest threat to Wlad, so surely that could pose a problem?

    We all know a Chisora fight is a formality but assuming Haye wins, what happens to Adamek then? Especially if Vitali loses too.

    I just think it was unfair to sign for a fight and then, a few weeks later, sign for the biggest fight of your life. I imagine Adamek will be nervous watching Haye/Wlad, if it happens, because he knows that with one right hand, the biggest paycheck of his life and shot at the undisputed title has been thrown out of the window.
     
  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    If its such a shitty deal for Adamek, why didn't Haye and his genius manager Adam Booth step in and make Adamek a better offer?
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course it is and I think there's significantly more money in fighting for 4 titles, the unified and undisputed champion than there is fighting a guy with no belt and a recent loss.

    There is far more money and prestige in fighting for the belts. A huge reason the fight will sell in Poland is because Adamek could be the first light heavy, cruiser and heavyweight champion, not to mention the first ever Polish heavyweight champion.
     
  10. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure the deal is off if both Klitschko loses. If only one Klitschko has the belt then that's the one that Adamek faces. If both have the belts than they choose. If Adamek loses the deal is off.
     
  11. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jack seriously, you sound like a whiny little *****. Nothing is good for you.

    1. Klitschko - Adamek in September. Not good for Jack, it's "unfair" to Adamek.

    2. Wlad - Chisora in April. Not good for Jack, even though Haye couldn't secure Sky PPV date for April.

    3. Wlad - Haye in July. Not good for Jack, cause it's in boring Germany while Haye couldn't secure Wembley for July 2nd as the arena was booked by TAKE THAT

    Serisouly, do you ever like anything ever? You always got something to complain about?
     
  12. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't deflect the issue: Adamek signed to fight Wlad and a few weeks later, Wlad may possibly announce the biggest and toughest fight of his career. Adamek's chance of a payday is no longer a certainty, which I don't think is fair for him, considering he cancelled a big fight with Peter to make sure the Wlad bout goes ahead.

    Adamek cancels a big fight to ensure the Klitschko bout happens
    Wlad signs to fight Haye a few weeks later

    A bit of difference there, don't you think?
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Look what would happen if Wlad and Vitali dropped their belts tomorrow? Not a god damn thing. They are trinkets except The Ring and even people try and discredit that one. Look Haye's WBA belt he has is as paper as it gets. Chagaev NEVER lost it in the Ring and Wlad beat Chagaev decisively who beat Valuev much more convincingly than Haye did who ran threw 11.9 punches a round and back peddled the whole fight.

    These belts are a joke. Period. Haye is no more a Heavyweight Champion than Chris Arreola is.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Wlad beats Haye, it's perfect for Adamek.

    Wlad/Chisora is a disgraceful fight that is inexcusable. Even Manny Steward said Wlad was wrong to accept it.

    I don't have any huge problem with the fight being in Germany but is it the poorest of all logical choices? Absolutely. And the fight could have taken place in Britain had Wlad not refused to fight outside of Germany several months ago.




    If the Wlad/Haye fight happens, great. I will be pleased at that but it doesn't excuse all the other bull**** which has gone on.
     
  15. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    This is EXACTLY was I was talking about in a thread the other day.

    What is it with Klit fans? Now, whatever I think of Jack's point, he didn't mention David Haye ANYWHERE in that post, he was simply expressing his views on that particular contract. Why then, is your first reaction to that to bring up David Haye?

    I do not understand why their fans do this. Someone says something that criticises the Klits and their instinct is to bring up David Haye, even when the discussion was not about him at all. Weird