Lastest: Wladimir CANCELS Chisora Fight! Final Haye Contract On the Table!

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    IMO beating Haye with Haye retiring on the spot does very little to Wlad's legacy. Not saying Wlad has the win in his pocket already, he will have to perform his best game as usually.

    Just saying: In 25 years, when people look at the boxing records, will they remember that a win over Haye has more weight than a win over Ibragimov?
     
  2. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who could Wlad fight for the WBC title which puts him remotely close to the top 10?

    The quality just isn't there.
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think so, simply because Haye is a better fighter than Ibragimov ever was. Haye won't go down as a great fighter or one with a great legacy, but he will go down as one of the best cruiserweights of all-time who was incredibly fast and had knockout power. That's more significant than what Ibragimov will be remembered as, which is just a steady but unspectacular opponent.
     
  4. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Haye is bringing his strong Cruiserweight legacy to the table, which really should be enough I think to make it an excellent win. He comes up well short of Holyfield and Archie Moore, but he did more at Heavyweight than Spinks and Conn did prior to their title shots.

    However, at HW? Absoutely right, think last time it came up I actually used the Sultan analogy whom he compares to. While Chambers, Chageav, Peter, Byrd, and even McCline all have much better resumes above 200 lbs.
     
  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jack I agree without a doubt Haye is a better and more dangerous fighter than Ibragimov. No disagreement at all! Just wondering will arm-chair experts browsing boxrec agree with this in 25 years?

    At the end of the day future experts will look at records, and they will see two somewhat similar records (Haye has more wins by stoppage obviously) and good amateur pedigrees in both Haye and Ibragimov. Both with relatively short pro careers, ending their careers very early on without testing themselves over a long period of time.
     
  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    are you sure eastsides main page has no story on this espn has no story on this and boxrec still has it up

    3 sources 2 out of 3 pretty credible, so whose your source
     
  7. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's expected. Just be patient. :D
     
  8. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Surely they have a backup fighter ready to go, and hey, maybe it's Chisora?
     
  9. stocks

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    Have you heard any thing on the venue?
     
  10. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frankfurt Germany soccer stadium.
     
  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    As far as I understand, Chisora still didn't know about it when the thread here was already up. Or did he just play along and deals were already made? :think

    Damn, I hate it when they decide things and neglect to notify me :twisted:
     
  12. Capt Howdy

    Capt Howdy Active Member Full Member

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    Another good question is if Wlad beats Haye, will the WBA let Wlad have the belt?
     
  13. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Probably not, he gets the "Super" Championship instead and the "regular" one will become vacant again.
     
  14. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    If its in frankfurt im going for sure
     
  15. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point, I don't know....he could be playing along, that is possible.