The light middleweight limit is 154 not 150!

yes, you're right, 154 IS THE LIMIT....not 150

 

Who's at an advantage here because of weight, Alvarez or Hatton?

Who was at an advantage in the JMM-Pac rematch?



:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

at the top of the game everything, bar the middleweights upwards is all about catchweights now

 

jugding from their actual fighting weights for the rematch, pac had to drain 4 more lbs. than jmm to make the 130 limit. in addition, pac had already been at superfeather for 3 years and had already outgrown the division at that point. on the other hand, jmm was only in his first year @130.

ergo, jmm had the advantage in his rematch w/ pac @130. am i right?

 

Limit. That means you aren´t allowed to weigh more. But you are allowed to weigh less. The average general forum poster is too dumb to get it though.

 

lol, who the hell brought Pac into this thread?
Alvarez is not weight drained at all. 152 was the most he's weighed in all of his previous bouts. It's odd that it should happen in a title fight and that in the last week the WBC conveniently move the weigh-in forward giving him more time to rehydrate to an even higher weight and sanction the bout for 154 so he keeps the title whether he makes the contracted weight or not. The fight was made at 150 to even it out a little. Hatton was already the smaller fighter and now will be at an even bigger disadvantage. It's a transparent attempt to make sure this guy cannot lose. If Pac had come in 2 lbs more than Marquez in their rematch, yes he would definately have had an advantage in that he would've been stronger not having to cut down. Look at the difference a couple of lbs made in the Corrales-Castillo fights

 

Alvarez should be copping **** for not fighting a jr middleweight, instead of fans trashing the catchweight. Senchenko was their original choice, another welter. So why, if Oscar plans on him fighting welters, did he petition the WBC to put up their jr middle belt, and why did the WBC agree? It's a joke, they just want to get this guy a title at all costs. Let's see if he defends it against a jr middleweight.

 

Yeah but there shouldnt be any negotiations that says you are´nt allowed to weigh more than 150 and then call it "light middleweight" division. Because thats not true.

 

Why not? If both sides agree to it and it is between 147 and 154 it is a lmw fight. I´m flabbergasted that anyone could think otherwise.

 

You have a very valid point.

Problem is . . . both parties agreed to it, signed the contract and the boxing body sanctioned it.

 

The WBC approved this bout for their title 3 weeks ago. Why only in the final week with training camps and preparations complete did they insist it have to be at 154? And to move the weigh-in forward? They knew Alvarez was not going to make weight or never intended to. This decision excuses Alvarez's unprofessionalism coming in over the limit and gives him more time to rehydrate to be even bigger come fight night. It also allows him to keep the title despite not meeting his contractual obligations, and it screws Hatton over who prepared for the fight being at 150.

 

Contractual obligations are between the two camps fighting. If they agreed at 150 catchweight and one party weighed 152 the implications are decided between the two of them, not the commission. Look at what happened the fight still pushes through, with the title intact. Why? Because from the commission's standpoint the only weight that matters is the 154 limit. There's no sanctions against setting catchweights agreements between fighters. And imo, rightly so. But that's a different topic altogether.

 

What pisses me off is that Hatton jeopardized the future of this fight by threatening to pull out if Alvarez didn't come in at 150lbs. The WBC or GB didn't care, as long as it was within the junior middleweight limit of 154lbs. The Hatton's were beng a bunch of little girls...and I can't believe that they were going to cancel the fight if Alvarez didn't give up 20% of his purse...not only that, Alvarez cannot exceed 160lbs until after 3 pm on the day of the fight, or he has to pay an additional punitive amount...didn't anyone remind Hatton that this was for a title?

 

You would think so, however I've seen a few articles recently suggesting the WBC sanctioned Pac-Margo as a 150 title fight. Here's one of them:http://www.examiner.com/fight-sport...ito-rules-don-t-apply-for-alvarez-vs-hattonIf Margo came in over 150 and won, would he still have won the title? It's seems logical that he would. Being the WBC tho, who invent titles and stipulations as they choose, I wouldn't be surprised if indeed 150 was their set limit.

 

It's in the contract Golden Boy drew up and Alvarez signed

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They didn't just invent these stipulations for no reason. Hatton is a welter and not very skilled. He could get seriously hurt fighting a naturally bigger more powerful guy being outweighed by alot. Never forget Gatti-Gamache.