Let's Stop Everything And Get Down To What Really Matters. Wlad or Haye? Who You Got?

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  1. Kingkazim

    Kingkazim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye by KO

    What i saw in Klitschkos fight against Peter was his openness to get hit on the inside, Wlad has never face anyone as quick and athletic as David Haye
     
  2. Swarmer

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    Wlad KO-TKO late.

    This fight has always had the air of a competitive bout but it is not. Those perceptions are a result of forced hype and trolling from Haye. If you look at their performances, size, and skills it's a wash.
     
  3. TheUnstoppable

    TheUnstoppable Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Haye gets Wlad's respect somehow and nullified/negates the jab, he has a big, big chance. Wlad, as we all know, stands tall with a tight defence, pumping out the jab with authority. If Haye can get Wlad to become tentative - reducing his output, making him less willing to commit, then he has excellent chances to counter and his stamina will be less of an issue.

    If Wlad gets the jab going and isn't phased by counters or Haye's power, then Haye is going to really, REALLY struggle.

    The odds favour Wlad but Haye is a live underdog.
     
  4. Strike

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    Wlad by KO. Haye will struggle to get past the jab. Haye could win it, if he landed big early on, but even then he has a horrible way of smothering his own work and thus missing his chance to finish the fight. The Ruiz fight is a prime example and even in the Enzo Mac fight where he did finish it, look how wild he was and how many wasted punches there were.

    Wlad has got up off the floor from bombs from Sanders and Haye would have to do more than rush in like a bull in a china shop to finish him off if he hurt him.

    Wlad by KO 5.
     
  5. AnthonyW

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    Wlad 8th round stoppage. Similar to how Haye lost against Thompson, but a lot more devastating...Haye out on his back.

    Haye will have to come up with a very good gameplan if he is to pull off the upset. He needs plenty more head movement (that pull back he adopts to avoid opponents will not be enough to stop Wlad's jab landing consistently)...he needs to not wait for Wlad aswell, once Wlad gets into a rhythm...the fight will be over for Haye.

    His best chance in my opinion will be if he tries to steamroll Wlad early, get him shaken up...but keep enough in the tank just in case he can't get him out of there. Wlad will be cautious early, he knows Haye is explosive, and is carrying respectable power, and good speed.
     
  6. 12downfor10

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    So haye is gonna batter wlad all over but then gas and get rescued by his corner?
     
  7. 12downfor10

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    Wlad late ko for me. wouldn't be suprised if haye got him early though
     
  8. AnthonyW

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    Finish reading the rest of the sentence you highlighted. I think Haye will go for it early, there is a chance he could catch Wlad with something, but there is also a good chance he won't get Wlad out of there. Haye's stamina isn't as good as what he believes, I think he will be forced into exchanges at times in this bout...and will eventually run out of steam, leading to Wlad stopping him.
     
  9. 12downfor10

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    Not an apt comparison though, Haye actually battered thompson for 3 and a bit rounds, i can't see haye being that aggresive vs wlad, or wlad being that tough. Hmm, I can't really see haye pressuring wlad early, I think he'll move a lot, look to counter and try and slow the fight down. If he gets a good counter thats when we'll see him go for it. That said it's pretty hard to counter some one on the outside when they've got that height, reach and style. Haye's best chance might come in the clinch if he can get an arm free.
     
  10. Overhill

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    History repeats itself in Hide/Vitali way.
     
  11. DrMo

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    Haye by KO in 3/4, maybe sooner.

    1st 2 rounds both men very cautious, by the 3rd Haye can time Wlad's jab & lands a big right hand.

    Wladimir might survive after that for a short while but Haye is quick enough to finish the job.
     
  12. Rangersfan1982

    Rangersfan1982 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye by ko in the 6th. Wlad will struggle with Hayes speed and far superior footwork.
     
  13. BlackWall

    BlackWall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wlad will ktfo haye. :deal
     
  14. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Maybe it's wishful thinking but I'm going with Haye.

    He's got a combination of speed and power that you don't see very often, and certainly not by any other Heavyweight right now. If he uses that speed to get in-and-out quickly and land his power-shots, there's every chance he can do it.

    Wlad has been incredibly dominany with his jab in the last few years and, if he can establish it, Haye will be in a lot of trouble. Haye should use more head movement than usual, along with his speed. It should be a lot harder for Wlad to time him though, than the likes of Peter, Chagaev and Chambers.

    With Haye's chin, it's possible Wlad could blow him away if he's uncharacteristically aggressive or if Haye goes too wild early on.

    Anything could happen - and that's the reason I'm looking forward to it so much.
     
  15. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hm...Wlad is injured and by the time havent been in a fight for a year.

    This is a tossup, Hayed definitely has the power and explosiveness to KO Wlad and Wlad has all the tools to beat Haye.

    I have only one question about this fight;

    WHAT HAPPENS TO ADAMEK??