sultan ibragimov >>> David haye

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  1. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    sultan ibragimov is a much better fighter then david haye! period

    better footwork, better defense, similiar power, similiar speed, better stamina, better trainer, better tactics nad tricky southpow

    ibragimov was plain and simple better then haye ever will be.

    so my conclusion is that WK will ko haye before the 7th round and win every round in an incredible boring fight with a nice highlight ko:deal
     
    Mordechai, Mar 6, 2011
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  2. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    Bollocks.

    Better footwork? No. Similar power? Not even close. Similar speed? No chance.

    How effective were his superior trainer and tactics against Wlad? During one break between rounds, you could hear tumbleweed rolling by because Jazzy Jeff didn't have a clue what to tell him. Sultan went back out and ate jabs for the rest of the fight looking absolutely clueless.

    And why does he get extra points for being a "tricky" southpaw? What's so tricky about his style anyway?

    Wlad may well beat Haye but I'd say he's a better fighter than Ibragimov.
     
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  3. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    watch a couple of fights from ibragimov. he had very good footwork, and was imo faster then haye, he had nice crisp straight lefts and right hooks and uppercuts combined with very fast feet and good lateral movement. his fault against wlad was that they had not trained head movement and wlad fought very cautious. thats difficult if you are way smaller and have shorter reach. oh thats the same in haye's case...
    and he was a tricky southpow because he feinted very good and had ring intelligence.

    haye has fast hands but his footwork is **** for real.
     
    Mordechai, Mar 6, 2011
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  4. boxing_source

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    Haye knocked Ibragimov out in sparring!
     
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  5. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    for the stupid:
    haye knocked the untalented cousin timur ibragimov out. NOT Sultan Ibragimov
     
    Mordechai, Mar 6, 2011
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  6. dvb

    dvb Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye will make all your haters look really stupid when he KOS both brothers.
     
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  7. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I've seen several of Ibragimovs fights and I've never seen speed or power that's comparable with Haye's.

    So his superior trainer didn't bother to train head movement?!? What a tactical masterstroke that turned out to be. Ibragimov and Mayweather were surprised Wlad fought cautiously? Did they mistake him for Mike Tyson?

    So Sultans superior trainer didn't have a clue what style his opponent fought with and was apparently unaware Wlad used the jab as they didn't bother working on head movement? Yeah, he clearly puts Clancy and Dundee to shame.

    Why wasn't Ibragimov able to adapt in the ring considering his superior ring intelligence? Why wasn't he able to open up some opportunities with his great feinting ability?
     
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  8. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You fail at life :hi:
     
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  9. Lennox

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    I think Haye is better by a good bit, but because of his stinkfest against Wlad, Ibrag has become severly underrated.
     
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  10. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sultan would have beaten Haye. No doubt in my mind.
     
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  11. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    some of you are blind by the hype of david haye. i haven't said that he is ****, but he is not nearly that good what you are all thinking of him.

    this guy has poor!!! footwork, thats why he is always off balance
    no real defense
    **** trainer
    bad stamina
    weak chin

    he has very good hand speed and very good power, thats all. i have never seen anything else of him

    ibragimov was a silver olympic medalist, very good footwork, good trainer (in comparision to adam booth), good power, good stamina and a good defense.

    imo ibragimov is better then haye.
     
    Mordechai, Mar 6, 2011
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  12. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ibragimov was not able to that because he faced a fighter with an atg jab, atg trainer, atg power, and atg tallness and reach knowledge^^

    thats why! i think that ibragimov would give 2010 vitali hell
     
    Mordechai, Mar 6, 2011
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  13. kinski

    kinski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather was the wrong trainer for him. Sultan is fast as haye throws better combos but i think haye may hit harder. Guess will see what Haye can do tho.
     
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  14. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    When he turned up in shape and aggressive, Sultan has certainly looked as good as Haye. Mayweather ruined this guy, tried to turn him into a cutie instead of a killer. Great body and combination puncher, Tyson was a huge fan and supporter of this guy and compared his speed/skills to himself. Tyson wanted to be in his corner for Wlad but legal troubles prevented him from traveling

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs8aYqHZtws[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57GcuAQdcCc[/ame]


    EVen had his moments against Austin, despite showing up overweight.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANy-vuD2HZ0[/ame]
     
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  15. Jennifer Love Hewitt

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