Vitali Klitschko vs "Iron" Mike Tyson, Prime-4-Prime

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  1. Valane

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    If you don't see how a tall, very physically strong fighter with very good durability could cause Tyson problems, then you are not being honest.

    Strength negated Mike, hence why Holy had so much success against him.

    Mike was expolisive as **** and one of the most dynamic fighters the sport has seen, but he had styles that he struggled with and he would have a tough time with Vitali.
     
  2. Terror

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    Vitali's resume sucks compared to Tyson's and Tyson is the greater fighter, but who you beat doesn't always dictate who you would beat.

    Vitali is a very tough fight for Tyson though. It's hard to say he'd for sure beat Tyson though since his resume is so thin and beating up fat Chris Arreola and shitty old Shannon Briggs doesn't mean much. I really think Tyson might be able to beat up the old 'Robotic Ali' and win a decision. Vitali doesn't impress me as much as he does other people in h2h.
     
  3. Matt

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    Who did Tyson beat? a washed up Holmes. A light heavyweight in Spinks, not a true heavyweight. He struggled against journeyman Tillis who was just a few inches taller. He was too scared to fight George Foreman, who way beyond his prime did pretty well against these contenders. Tony Tucker, Biggs, Frank Bruno? Come on, those guys were mediocre, and not any better than today's guys. When he didn't intimidate you, you had a chance, as Douglas showed. When he faced Holyfield, he was totally outboxed. If somehow he lands Vitali wouldn't crumble. Vitali would beat him. Tyson would have a tough time reaching him. Vitali would land on him. Now, Wladimir is a different story, he lands a few & Wladimir goes down.
     
  4. Money Shot

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    Amazes me anyone can vote for Tyson hear. Vitali would murder him, any version.
     
  5. TheGreat

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    Holyfield beat Tyson because

    1. He was able to match his speed.
    2. was more skilled when they fought.
    3. Could outfight him inside.
    4. Tyson was still kinda rusty from prison and wasn't as skilled in the 90s as the 80s.

    Just because Holyfield beat Tyson after a 4 year Prison term doesn't mean Vitali would beak a peak Tyson. Vitali is not only inferior to Holyfield as a fighter but also fights nothing like him.
     
  6. Lennox

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    I don't like a "prime" Tyson against any of the ATG's. The select group of ATG's all had the strength (mental and physical) and skills to beat him. In a round robin, Tyson is the worst of the ATG's.
     
  7. TheGreat

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    Who has Vitali beaten that was as good as Holmes or Spinks? He got his chance against an old Lewis and couldn't finish the fight, he had his chance against former MW Byrd and quit.
     
  8. TheGreat

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    Maybe BUT Vitali ain't an ATG :yep
     
  9. TheGreat

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    People want to say Vitali is equal to Lewis, but they ignore the fact that was a very poor version he fought against and still LOST.
     
  10. Valane

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    Of course they don't fight alike, it's not the point. Holy negated Mike with strength and smarts. Holy is 6'1 and not as strong as Vitali.

    Mike was also negated by guys like Tucker, Smith, Tillis, Green, not to the same extent but they survived.

    Vitali has tools in this fight that would cause big problems.

    Vitali might be an inferior boxer, taking everything in to acount then no he isn't an inferior fighter to Evander.
     
  11. Valane

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    Why was it a poor version? He looked less than Stellar because Vitali is an elite fighter.

    Lewis also looked less than stellar in a lot of his earlier fights.
     
  12. Matt

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    Holmes was way over the hill at the time he fought. Spinks was just moved up. Sam Peter, at that time would beat Spinks. Holmes was a superior fighter, but by that time was a shell of himself. A little like Leon Spinks beat a shell of himself Ali. Tyson was in his prime when he fought Douglas, and got kod. Vitali quit against Byrd but was winning the fight. Herbie Hide was probably close to James Tillis, and Tyson admitted to him, according to Tillis that he lost to him. Klitschko knocked him out. Why was he scared against George Foreman? A big man, someone who could punch & take a punch, Vitali is about 3 inches taller than Foreman. Corie Sanders at that time he fought him, was a pretty tough guy, who threw bombs. But he took his punches. He took Lewis' punches. With a much smaller Tyson, he'd use his reach advantage & height advantage. Biggs, Tucker, etc. I don't see as any better than let's say Johnson, Arreola. Look the heavyweight division is weak now, but during Tyson's time it was pretty weak too.
     
  13. TheGreat

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    Spinks would've jabbed Peter's head off just like Chambers did, Peter is a joke who has nothing to offer, as far as the division goes, I would say it is weaker now than it was than, Old Holmes, Spinks, Tucker, Ruddick, McCall and Bruno were certainly better than Arreola, Peter, Solis, Austin, Chagaev and old Ruiz. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Haye cleaned up against these guys.
     
  14. TheGreat

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    Mike was negated through speed, skill mixed in with smarts and toughness, as I said earlier, Vitali was inferior to holyfield in all respects except for size.

    As for the others, since when does losing a wide UD while not trying to win equal negating something?
     
  15. TheGreat

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    He was poor because he was old, inactive and overweight as he weighed in at a career high 256 for the fight, now you're the one not being honest.